[HPforGrownups] Re: JKR and the boys (and girls)

[danielle dassero]

No: HPFGUIDX 161608

Phoenixgod2000:
A bad job of writing Ginny? I'm shocked. Shocked I say :)

Nicky Joe:
LOL! I can't agree more. I've tried and tried to like her, but darn 
it, there's just not enough to go on! She in the whole series for, 
like, five minutes. I didn't want to be TOLD who she was, I wanted 
to be SHOWN.

Phoenixgod2000:
…I think she probably does believe that
Hermione and Ginny are best girlfriends and they are--in her head--
but I don't think she does a good job of conveying that in the text.

Nicky Joe:
It wouldn't have been that difficult, either. A simple mention by 
Hermione about doing something with Ginny once in awhile would have 
helped. Heck, I've seen fanfic do a better job at making Ginny a 
character!

As many people have pointed out, this is from Harry's point of view, he's not going to notice Ginny much. My older siblings friends never noticed me much either. Most don't unless the younger siblings are very outgoing and included in everything. Until OOPT Ginny was very shy around Harry.
Danielle

Phoenixgod2000:
…regardless of how insular Harry is, that
just isn't plausible. When I was in school, I was hardly a big man
on campus in a much bigger school than Hogwarts and I could have
named every student in my class and said something about them.

Nicky Joe:
That ALWAYS bugged me about the series. Harry lived a decade in 
Muggleland and had ZERO friends? That's not only implausible, it's 
downright ludicrous. It would have been pretty simple to get rid of 
any Muggle friends of Harry's by having them move away or something, 
but to not give him any at all? That's just wrong. I know why she 
did it, but I don't have to like it.

And it is plausible that Harry didn't have any friends, kids in that age bracket can be very self centered and cruel, Dudley picked on Harry so much, that other kids were afraid that if they hung out with Harry they would get picked on too. As well as the fact is that some kids are very into what other people looked like and since Harry looked poor and scraggly no one wanted to hang out with him.  Plus Harry didn't really rock the boat much, so he wouldn't have gone thru the trouble of making friends, because he would feel bad about being invited to his friends home and never being able to invite them to his because petunia would never allow it. And again, the story is told from the viewpoint of when he goes to hogwarts. So he could have had friends when he is at school, that he just doesn't socialize with outside of school or school activities. I have plenty of friends like that, I see them at school or work and not outside of, we get along pretty well, we just don't
 socialize outside those paremeters. Hogwarts sound almost like the size of a regular american high school or smaller, depends on how well you trust JKR's math. my graduating class had over 400 students in it, I didn't know them all. I knew maybe 100 by face and name only because I went to school with them since we were 13yrs old. Would I remember them now, probably not. And again this is worth repeating, the story is from Harry's viewport, so we know only what he sees, or feels, or whatever the author feels like letting us know. It's getting to the point where everyone is nitpicking every little detail, that you are getting away from the point that this is a piece of fiction. Authors may try to make things work in a real way, but it doens't always turn out that way. GET OVER IT!!! When you guys decide to write your own story and get it published do it the way you want to do it, right down to the very last perfect detail. This is Rowlings story, and she's made it clear
 she's a human being that makes mistakes, we all know her math is horrible.

Danielle




 
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