Snape Telling the Prophecy (Re: CHAP DISC, HBP 25, The Seer Overheard)

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No: HPFGUIDX 161762

> Jen:
<SNIP>
> But if Dumbledore's explanation is correct, it's not looking so
good
> for Snape. Notice he doesn't say Snape had no idea Voldemort would
> actually target a baby, he says Snape had no idea *which* baby
would
> be the target---Dumbledore, what are you thinking?!? Taking a page
> from Alla's book, I wanted to slap him! You can almost forgive
> Snape for being 20-something and an idiot, but 150 and that's your
> answer???? I just hope this was one of those instances JKR was
> referring to when she said Dumbledore could be too detached because
> he sure comes off that way to me, grumble. Another emotional
> mistake with Harry, Dumbledore doesn't really understand why Harry
> is so furious or why he has the *right* to be so furious.

Alla:

LOLOLOL. I love what you just said and agree with it, obviously,
let's slap him together.

But my problem was not even only this idiotic explanation ( Duh,
Dumbledore that makes it so much better that Snape was giving out
unknown baby according to you), but the fact that Dumbledore seemed
to brush away Harry's anger on the person who played a part in making
Harry's life what that is ( and nobody can convince me that Snape is
not complicit in it, I can totally see that he may have felt remorse
afterwards, yes, I do not see it now, but I find it plausible, but
his fault in starting all that is right there, IMO).

I wished, I so wished that Dumbledore would have simply told Harry -
yes, you have an absolute right to be angry at professor Snape, he
did what he did, and **then** proceeded to defend Severus dear, if he
wanted to do it, but without acknowledging Harry's right to be
angry...

Ugh, slap Dumbledore time :)


> Jen R., who doesn't blame Harry one bit for blowing up over this
> revelation but does think he will have to move on past anger and
> resentment.
>

Alla:

Oh, absolutely, no matter how I feel about it - this is clear that
this is where story is going IMO.

But Harry moving on to forgiveness, which I do think JKR can write
well is soo different from dismissing what Snape did IMO.

ETA:

Speaking about Dumbledore's emotional mistakes, I just had a thought. 
I mean I am sure it is not a novel thought, but anyways.

Dumbledore says in OOP that one of his mistakes is to forget what it 
means to be young, etc.

What if one of the implications of that, which he does not spell out 
is to forget that death of the loved one can be extremely painful 
experience for the young person.

I mean, Dumbledore is 150 something, he lost loved ones, I would 
speculate many many times, it is quite possible that he would grow 
quite detached, no?

I mean, how much time had passed since he lost his parents? I would 
speculate a lot. How could he fully empathise with sixteen year old, 
who still feels that wound, IMO?

How could he fully empathise with Harry who lost a father/brother 
figure in Sirius? After all, Dumbledore just probably does not 
remember what it feels like, etc.

Alla, rambling one.