Kreacher the Plot Device Elf

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No: HPFGUIDX 161790

> > >>bboyminn:
> > <snip>
> > There is no indication that Dobby is or was ever less than a hard 
> > working dutiful house-elf.
> > <snip>
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> The Malfoys would strongly disagree.  Dobby undercut Lucius's plans 
> and reported directly to their enemy (as per Dobby's view of 
> Harry).  You can't get less "dutiful" than that.

Alla:

I completely agree, Betsy :) Dobby betrayed his masters, it is quite 
clear to me. To keep it from being complete me too ( hopefully), it 
is the same to me as Snape betraying Voldemort ( if he truly 
deflected, of course) - there is no way around it IMO that Snape 
betrayed his master and probably caused a  great harm to his master 
and his comrades. Now, if Snape deflection was genuine, I fully agree 
and empathise with the reasons of why he did, but it is called 
betrayal, just as I unquestionably call Dobby's actions betrayal, 
even if I cheer him up for doing it.


> Betsy Hp:
> Again, it's all in the eye of the beholder here.  Of course you 
> don't see the Malfoys as being harmed. You disagree with their 
> philosophies and goals (I assume <g>) so if they're foiled, no real 
> harm or foul.
> 
> But for all Dobby knew, his betrayal could have lead to Lucius 
being 
> Kissed.  (Willingly and knowlingly releasing a magical beast on the 
> WW's children is not something I think the MoM would have taken 
> lightly.)

Alla:

Not speaking for Steve, but totally - if the member of the gang that 
tortures and murders gets betrayed, I am not crying for him at all.

  
> Betsy Hp (who thinks it's a mistake to link house-elves to human 
> slaves but has to run and so can't say more than that. <g>)
>

Alla:

I guess I disagree here in a sense that IMO JKR was pretty clear in 
interviews that house-elves is a metaphor for slavery.