Freedom for House-Elves (Was: Kreacher the Plot Device Elf)

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 162061

> Quick_Silver:
> Ok I agree with what you say but at the same time I feel that 
there's 
> meant to be a certain irony to the Kreacher scenes. In OotP Kreacher 
> manipulated Sirius's ignorance about the nature of house-elves and 
> his own magical enchantments (by his rather interesting interruption 
> of "Get Out") to bring about the plan that would have resulted in 
> Harry's death. Instead it killed Sirius and left Kreacher as the 
> property of Harry who has seen how dangerous house-elves are 
> (personally I wouldn't let go of my wand if I was a wizard and a 
> house elf was near). Then Harry uses Kreacher (and Dobby) to spy on 
> Malfoy...the son of the person Kreacher was spying for in OotP. 
> 
> Quick_Silver (who thinks that the joke was on Kreacher this time)
>

Alla:

Oh, I agree completely. I would not shed a tear if Kreacher ends up 
dead on the first page of the book 7, but at the same time, at the 
same time ( and again, please believe me that I am a proud member 
of "Die, Kreacher, die club" :)), I don't know.

I do think that making Harry ending with Kreacher was...odd.

I have a very bad suspicion that JKR means us to agree with Dumbledore 
( that Kreacher needs to be pitied, that he was mistreated by wizards, 
etc,etc), but if it is so - the lesson to me falls oh so very flat, so 
very on deaf ears.

I mean Harry is expected to be responsible for bastard who is 
complicit in the death of his godfather and that bastard needs to be 
pitied?

Um, thanks, but no thanks JKR.

But again at the same time - this is slavery in my view, pure and 
simple.

As I said I fully expect at least the beginnings of house elves 
situation to be changed somehow at the end of book 7 - maybe 
enchantment lifted and we will at least know what elves truly want? 
And wizards beginning to do something to honor their wishes whatever 
that is?

I am not making a great deal of sense at this late hour. I guess what 
I am trying to say is while I have no sympathy for Kreacher's 
enslavement, it is purely revenge feeling and similar wish to see him 
suffer as I have of Snape, and I did find Harry's ordering Kreacher to 
spy after Malfoys to be a bit unworthy of Harry, I suppose.

Again, I do not begrudge him much, I think it was pretty clear that 
Harry did not want owning the blasted elf, but I think that Dobby 
would have done same job just as well and what is most importantly 
willingly and with pleasure.

Ugh, not too coherent, but would be happy to clarify.

Tomorrow.

Alla