Readers in the WW (was: JKR and "Think of the Children!")
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 29 04:35:10 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 162116
> Magpie:
<SNIP>
I don't think
> Harry's being a reader would confuse anything or make the WW seem
less real
> or blur any lines between fantasy and reality. It would work
fine. Harry
> just doesn't happen to be that boy.
Alla:
I don't get it. Okay, you are saying it would work fine, Neri and me
tagging along with Neri saying that it is easily could be seen as
one of motivations for JKR to not make Harry's reading Dursleys'
books. Could you clarify please how the argument is invalid on its
own? I mean, how the argument that in your view Harry is not a
reader seem to invalidate the idea that he is not a reader of
fiction ( because he does read non-fictional books) precisely for
that reason?
Harry may indeed not be that boy, or JKR may want to do exactly what
Neri suggested, no?
> Magpie:
> Are you suggesting that if we'd happened to be told that Harry
liked to
> read --including fiction--in the opening chapters of PS, that that
would
> somehow give the theory that the whole story is his imagination
more weight?
> Because I really don't think that's true. <SNIP>
Alla:
Yes, that is precisely what I am saying ( or more accurately) it is
me liking Neri's argument. Why it cannot be true?
Neri:
<SNIP>
All the
> things that Dudley does without being
> the great intellectual and imaginative type.
>
> Magpie:
> I hesitate to say this because I don't mean to pretend I know your
personal
> motivations, but I can't help but jump on those last
words "without being
> the great intellectual and imaginative type" because it seems like
that's
> exactly why Harry's disinterest in books is an issue is because
it's seen as
> somehow insulting, as if it's a way of saying he's stupid. (Which
of course
> is partly the point of telling us Dudley's own books are
untouched.)
<SNIP>
Alla:
Well, to me the issue is that do not see in canon that Harry is
disinterested in the books per se, I see him not reading muggle
fiction books, more precisely books on Dudleys shelf, that is it.
So, yes, that is the main issue to me. Even if the only thing Harry
reads is non-fiction sometimes, I consider that to be a reader.
But what you just said , certainly comes as my **secondary**
motivation, absolutely. Let me stress it again - secondary
motivation, because I do not agree that canon shows us that Harry
never reads a book. Having said that, I certainly think that
character or person should read books sometimes. IMO of course.
I once went on a date with the guy, who told me that the last time
he read a book was when he was in the fifth grade. He did not seem
to be joking, the guy was in his early thirties. This was my first
and last date with this guy.
So, yeah, I would **prefer** Harry picking a book sometimes, but I
also **see** Harry picking a book in canon sometimes and whether it
is a fiction or book about Quidditch, really makes no difference to
me.
Let me say again, I am not even sure if I call Harry book lover, but
would I call him a reader? Certainly, I would. If you insist, I can
call him a non-fiction reader with the assumption that it is a
possibility that he reads fiction when we don't see it, but even if
he does not, I had seen enough of him reading to convince me that
the books exist for him.
Certainly Harry is no scholar and he does not need to be, he is not
that much into books, but I saw him with the book enough time ( as
much as the story allows of course) to convince me that he knows
that the books exist :)
JMO,
Alla, who has a very bad suspicion that this is her sixth post if
she counts it again, but since it is too late she takes a chance and
posts and goes to slam her fingers.
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