Resurrection (sort of)

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 30 23:21:41 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 162208

---  "Cheryl" <xcpublishing at ...> wrote:
>
> The "Is Quirrell alive?" post got me thinking about 
> just how many "dead" wizards have been brought back so
> far in this series.  No wonder there are so many of us
> hoping Sirius and Dumbledore will return!
> 
> Lord Voldemort - presumed dead, alive through Horcrux
> 
> Peter Pettigrew - presumed dead, alive through Animagus
> ability
> 
> Barty Crouch, Jr. - presumed dead, alive through 
> Polyjuice
> 
> Regulus Black - presumed dead, likely alive?
> 
> Sirius Black - presumed dead, hopefully alive!
> 
> Albus Dumbledore - definitely dead.  Probably.  Maybe.
> 
> Did I miss any?
> 
> Cheryl
>

bboyminn:

One key point you are overlooking, these people did not
return from the 'dead', they returned from the 'PRESUMED
Dead'. That is quite a different thing.

Quirrel is absolutely dead. While we aren't given the
details, there is no reason to think that Dumbledore 
didn't find Quirrel's body in the last chamber when he
found Harry there. So, DEAD, no presumption about it.
Plus, what possible purpose could he now serve in an 
already over complicated plot with far far far too
many subplots to resolve. None, I say.

Voldemort was truly /presumed/ dead, but we now know
how and why he didn't really die.

Peter, also /presumed/ dead, but with no proof, only 
logical supposition. He didn't return from the dead,
he simply made himself known again.

Barty Jr, same, his death was a reasonable assumption
given the apparent circumstance, but we learn that 
circumstances were not as they seemed, and he was alive
all along.

Regulus Black, now that is a stretch. We have no 
indications or even hints that he might still be alive.
All indications are that he is dead and buried. It seems
reasonable that his family accepted him as dead because
they had his body and buried it. Of course, that is an
assumption, but a reasonable one. So, no Regulus 
returning from the dead.

Sirius Black is not presumed dead, he is unequivocally
behind the Veil. Now it is possible he is alive back 
there, he did go through alive and with his body in tact.
But none the less he is in the land of the dead and 
trapped there, and that is where he will spend eternity
unless by some magical happenstance, someone can go in 
and bring him out. (Something I'm not completely denying,
by the way.) So, while all hope is not lost, it 
is EXTREMELY thin and very unlikely. For all intent and
purpose, Sirius is gone.

Albus, admitedly there is some ever so small teeny tiny
element of ambiguity in his death. But JKR flat out said
he is dead, and twist it and turn it any way you want;
dead is dead. So, says god in this universe (JKR).

I know lots of people are hoping for one character or 
another to return from the dead, or technically dead,
and I am hoping for it too, but I think the chances are
very very very very very very very slim.

You heard it here first.

Steve/bboyminn






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