Dumbledore Does Lie (Re: What turned Snape)

[montavilla47]

No: HPFGUIDX 159003

Mike:
So, what does she tell us? Here's Sibyll (HBP US, p.545):

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"Yes, there was a commotion outside the door and it flew open, and
there was the rather uncouth barman standing with Snape, who was
waffling about having come the wrong way up the stairs, ..."
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Sibyll goes into a trance-like state during her prophesy telling,
she is unaware that she even made them. She is unaware of what is
happening until *after* she comes out of her trance. There is no way
she can know Snape was there unless he was there *after* Sibyll
*completes* the prophesy. (I'm not buying that Sibyll could be aware
of her surroundings, but not hear her own words). Therefore, Snape
certainly could have heard the entire prophesy, or if he heard only
part, it would have been the last part.

Montavilla:
Here's an alternate scenario.  Trelawney is giving her interview.  Snape is
listening at the door for whatever reason.  Aberforth catches him and
flings open the door.

Trelawney is appalled, Dumbledore concerned, Snape sputtering excuses.

At that moment, Trelawney starts going into her trance.  Dumbledore
tells Aberforth to throw Snape out.  Aberforth does, but Snape has
heard the first part of the prophecy.

Trelawney comes out of her trance.  "Where did that rude boy go?"

"Never mind," Dumbeldore says.  "I'd like to offer you a position at
Hogwarts.  Starting tonight."

She says she felt strange before Snape came in--but does that mean she
went into the trance?  When she went into the trance with Harry she
didn't seen to notice it at all.  She could have easily gone into the trance
after Snape entered the room, and the strange feeling was simply a
prelude to her trance state.

Montavilla