How much of the Prophecy Snape heard WAS: Dumbledore Does Lie

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 3 15:20:45 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 159025

Goddlefrood:
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> On the subject of what part of the prophecy Snape heard, if he
actually heard any at all, I suggest that he may very well have heard
the entire thing. The reasoning behind this is that while a Pensieve
memory can be limited to show only one aspect (as was done by Albus
when showing the Prophecy to Harry) I do not think, unlike some Muggle
technology, that extraneous sounds can be edited out. If there had
been a fuss close to where the Prophecy was being made (as indicated
by Dumbledore's account) then some interference of sound at least
would have been noticed when the Prophecy was played back in the Pensieve.
> 
> Goddlefrood who looks forward to severe contortions being suggested to 
> explain why the Prophecy was spoken with no other sounds whatever on 
> the Pensieve
>
Carol responds:
But we already have our answer. Dumbledore can cause just the person
speaking (Bertha Jorkins, Trelawney, Caractacus Burke in HBP) to rise
up from the Pensieve so that his or her words are heard without any
context. He specifically chose this technique with Harry and the
Prophecy, perhaps to save time but more likely because he didn't want
Harry to see Snape as the eavesdropper. If Harry had entered the
memory, he would have seen the whole thing and we would know how much
of the Prophecy Snape heard. 

Perhaps we can still see that memory since three living people were
present--Snape, Trelawney, and Aberforth. All we need is to have
someone somehow remove the memory from one of their heads (Snape can
remove it from his own) and place it in a Pensieve and have Harry
enter the Pensieve. He could wander around in the memory, perhaps even
walk through a closed door, and both see and hear what really
happened, more than the person whose memory it is knew at the time
because the Pensieve shows the memory as an objective, and complete,
record. It probably wouldn't matter which side of the door the person
who witnessed or spoke the Prophecy was on because their subconscious
mind would have recorded the other sounds and perhaps the actions
around them.

Carol, wondering how Harry can acquire the necessary memory and
whether the closed door would present a problem








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