How much of the Prophecy Snape heard WAS: Dumbledore Does Lie

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 3 20:29:25 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 159038

montims:
> I've missed something.  Why was Snape there at all?  OK, he was
following DD around, and spying for LV.  OK, he was told by LV to get
a job at Hogwarts,
> and maybe this didn't displease him.  But why, actually, was he
listening
> (or trying to listen) to DD interviewing Sybill?
>
Carol responds:
Especially when it wasn't even the normal time of year for an
interview. How could he have known that Trelawney would be
interviewing for the post of Divination teacher that night or that
she'd be staying at the Hogs' Head? Most likely he didn't. And, IMO.
Voldemort hadn't asked him to apply for the DADA post yet. I think
that happened *after* snape had told him part of the Prophecy, and the
opportunity wouldn't occur until the following summer. I'm betting
that's when Snape went to Dumbledore, shortly after Harry's birth,
with his information about Voldemort had interpreted the Prophecy. At
that time, DD would have turned him down for a teaching position but
it would be the perfect opportunity to make him a spy and test his
loyalty and courage. The following year, when he tried again (still on
LV's orders), he would have been given the Potions position (Slughorn
having conveniently resigned) instead of DADA.

But IMO, and I realize that others disagree with me, Trelawney is
mistaken about young Snape being there to get job interviewing tips
(as if he'd do that by listening to Trelawney, anyway!). The time
frame is wrong, but her mind is muddled by hindsight and cooking
sherry when she unwittingly reveals the identity of the eavesdropper. 

At any rate, I don't think that young Snape was spying for anybody at
that time, though DD says he was a loyal DE. I think he was simply
curious and followed DD upstairs. Alternatively, he was in league with
Aberforth and Dumbledore all along, but why they would stage an
eavesdropping, I have no clue. I agree with Mike that the eavesdropper
being thrown out halfway through the Prophecy does not match
Trelawney's version, and garbled as that version may be in terms of
Snape's motive for eavesdropping and the timing of his teaching
appointment in relation to hers (my point, not Mike's), it's clear
that she did actually see him--after the Prophecy was complete.
There's no way to reconcile that with "ejected from the building
halfway through the Prophecy." No way at all, my precious. (Sorry.
Wrong book.)

Carol, not sold on any alternative version at this point and fearing
that here as elsewhere JKR just doesn't see the inconsistencies










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