LV, Nagini and Harry

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 4 16:30:00 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 159068

"sridharj_ap" wrote:
>
> > I was rereading OOP and was struck by a question I 
> > couldn't answer. ... Why is Harry able to "see" only
> > when LV possesses Nagini? Otherwise, he is only able to
> > feel LV's mood (again, only if it is intense).
> > 
> > Is it somehow related to the fact that Harry can 
> > understand Parseltongue? 
> > 
 
bboyminn responded:
> 
> Not quite true, there is one other scene that comes to mind
> when Harry sees through Voldemort's eyes that doesn't 
> involve Nagini. It is the scene where Voldemort is talking 
> to Rookwood. At the end Voldemort with Harry seeing through
> his eyes walks to a mirror and looks at himself. The vision
> Harry sees in that mirror wakes him up.
> 
> I think what the books is showing us is that Harry is able
> to get deeper into Voldemort's mind. Notice in the beginning
> Harry generally senses Voldemort strongest feelings, but
> later he is able to sense more subtle feeling and understand
> them more precisely. Initially he senses Voldemort's anger 
> and hatred, but later he is able to sense and understand joy
> as well as anger.
> 
> Obviously since the 'scar connection' has been there since
> the beginning of the series, I think it will in some way
> become important to the final outcome; though it's 
> significant could be either major or minor.

Carol adds:
There's also the dream in which, oddly, he's seeing from Frank Bryce's
perspective and another in which he's flying on the eagle owl and
then, IIRC, sees Voldemort. These scenes are not presented from LV's
point of view or from that of someone or something he's possessed.
Somehow the scar connection makes them possible, but they have no
direct connection to Nagini or Parseltongue. The dreams of the DoM
are, I think, from LV's pov. Certainly they're his dreams that Harry
is sharing (and thinks are his own). As for the scene in which he sees
from Nagini's pov, it's because, as Snape tells Harry, "the Dark Lord
was possessing the snake."
> 
Sridhar continued:
> >
> > Another related question is if Nagini is a young Basilisk,
> > but that somehow does not fit in. If Nagini is one, then 
> > biting Arthur should have killed him, since the bite was 
> > severe and there was a considerable time before Arthur 
> > was in St. Mungo's.
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
> Based on our best analysis of Nagini in previous discussions
> she is not any known snake, nor by any analysis can we 
> conclude that she is a Basilisk. So, for now the best we can
> come up with is that she is a purely fictional snake. JKR
> in her book 'Magical Beast and Where to Find Them' and in 
> the HP series has not defined any snake or snake like 
> creature that matches Nagini. So, again for now, we can only
> conclude that she is a real-life but fictional snake; if that
> makes any sense. 

Carol adds:
I agree that she's not a young basilisk, but I think the magical
properties of her venom are clearly demonstrated both in its effects
on Mr. Weasley and in its uses and sustaining Voldemort's rudimentary
fetal form. IMO, whatever else she may be (a Horcrux, a familiar, an
unusually devoted pet who's almost as evil as her master), she's
clearly magical. No, she's not one of the fantastic beasts, but
neither are the magical rats in the pet store in Diagon Alley or the
post owls that know where to find the recipient without an address.
Some animals are magical; some are common garden rats or ordinary
snakes or owls (or rabbits like Binky).

Carol, who still thinks that Nagini was made a Horcrux before Godric's
Hollow








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