Blood, Life Debt, and LV

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 159092

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at ...> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> Tonks:
> With all of this in mind, I do not think that Harry has to kill to
> destroy LV. I have always said that Harry will not kill. I think
> we are going to see the "other ways to destroy a man". When I heard
> that phrase, I assumed some horrible method know to Wizards and
> Muggles alike, but now I am starting to wonder if DD was referring
> to something else that like the ancient magic LV has forgotten or
> overlooked.

Mike:
When I read the "other ways to destroy" line (which followed DD's 
spell that made Harry's hair stand on end), I immediately thought of 
the "Love Room" in the DoM. My inclination was towards some very 
powerful spell that uses Love as it's compelling/magical force akin 
to casting an effective 'crucio' needing a desire to cause pain. 

DD must already know that he can't kill LV by this time, but this 
spell could be something that infuses so much love that the target 
stops fighting. Like a love potion only stronger and encompassing 
more than a singular desire. I still think Harry is going to have to 
get into that *Love Room* and quite possibly figure out what that 
spell was. IIRC, JKR said we are still going to learn more about 
both the spell and the *Love Room*.


> <snip> 
> Tonks again:
> Now look at Harry's blood. It is not only the blood with Lily's 
> protection in it, it is the blood of the one who spared PP.

Mike again:
This maybe out there, but what the hey. Lily's sacrafice was what DD 
used to give Harry protection from LV when Harry is with someone 
(Petunia) that has Lily's blood in her. LV uses Harry's, and thereby 
Lily's blood for his regeneration. Doesn't that mean that when Harry 
is in LV's presence that he is protected just like he is when he is 
in Petunia's presence? Was that the reason for the "gleam" in GoF?

OK, DD's blood protection with Petunia (and LV himself?) expires on 
Harry's 17th birthday. But when does Lily's sacrificial protection 
expire? Did we ever hear that it does expire? Since GH, LV has cast 
two AKs at Harry and both of them were blocked (one by Priori and 
one by DD enchanting a statue to intercede). Is this some kind of 
clue? Is Lily's protection still in place, just manifesting in 
different methods? Not strong enough anymore to directly block the 
AK like it once did, but acting like 'Felix Felicious' which causes 
something to happen, that appears to be luck, to still protect Harry.


> <snip>
> Tonks:
> The other thing that I am pondering is this. What will happen if in
> someway the horcruxes are destroyed and LV is at Harry's mercy and
> Harry lets him go? I know this seems crazy. Yes LV can make more
> horcruxes later, but in that moment he can't so he will be stuck at
> Harry mercy. What will happen if Harry spares LV's life? Harry's
> greatest asset is his ability to Love. Love also implies other
> things as well. Love has the ability to have mercy, to have
> forgiveness.

Mike:
What if this is when Harry casts DD's *Love Spell* and separates 
the "Lord Voldemort" part from Tom Riddle? What if it removes all 
the bad from the soul/Main soul piece, leaving a decent wizard named 
Tom Riddle?

I just thought of this: what if DD's spell separates the Main soul 
piece in Voldemort's body from the Horcrux soul pieces? This would 
explain DD casting it in the MoM when he knows he can't kill LV. 
This would certainly be the first step to "destroy a man" if that 
man is Lord Voldemort.