Dumbledore and Secrecy WAS:Re: The Statute of Secrecy

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No: HPFGUIDX 159152

> Magpie:
> While I'm sure the reasons are all plot-dependent, sometimes one 
can't help 
> but be amazed at how much Dumbledore does keep secret. 

Alla:

During the course of this thread ( or threads about Dumbledore, but 
feels as one longest thread - I think this one is our longest non-
stop character slapping threads to date. I mean Snape comes and goes 
all the time, but at least we are taking breaks, lol. This one seems 
to be non-stop, and of course I am laughing at myself first and 
foremost since I seem to like slapping Dumbledore lately) I begin to 
understand fully what Renee had been saying in the past, that 
sometimes the strings which JKR moves to move the characters are 
sometimes too visible.( Sorry, Renee if I misstated you).

I mean, what you said - all this stupid secrecy is for plot related 
reasons, but it is getting ridiculous. So, yeah, I agree with you, 
kind of, although read on.

Magpie:
 For instance--why 
> keep Voldemort's secrets for him?  Bellatrix was furious at the 
idea that he 
> was a Half-blood, but for some reason nobody knows who he really 
is.  Yet it 
> seems like a great thing for people to know given that he's 
attempted to 
> make himself into a sort of demonic figure.  It would probably be 
a good 
> thing for people to understand that he started off as just another 
Wizard. 
> But it's not like Dumbledore's teaching his history in school.  By 
doing 
> that he adds to the exact same power Voldemort has cultivated for 
years.

Alla:

Yes, I agree again - it would make a perfect sense to show people 
that the **king is naked** so to speak. To unglorify Voldemort, to 
show that he is just a half-blood psycho, nothing more and 
Dumbledore does not do it.

To be fair though, he at least tries to dissipate the fear of the 
name and insists people call him Voldemort, I think that one will go 
long way ( Wow, I am still able to admire some things Dumbledore 
does), but yeah, he should have screaming from the roof about 
Voldemort heritage, IMO.


Magpie: 
> The Horcruxes are even more arbitrary.  DD has a crack team of 
adults sworn 
> to fight Voldemort, and yet they can't be told about the steps 
needed to 
> destroy Voldemort.  The only people who can know about that are 
Harry and 
> his two best friends?  I know it's important for the plot to have 
the kids 
> doing it themselves, but it's actually pretty funny.
<SNIP>

Alla:

It is very funny, although let's pretend for a second that Pippin 
does not hear us ;) If Dumbledore seriously thinks that he is dying 
from the ring curse or if he simply plans in case of his death 
during the fight, there is one reason why him insisting Harry not 
telling anybody about Horcruxes would make sense - traitor in the 
Order, IMO.


Magpie:
  Dumbledore says the 
> prophecy only has meaning because Voldemort made it so, yet he 
actually 
> seems to be working just as hard as Voldemort to that end, making 
sure 
> everything is focused on Harry, who now feels he's not only got to 
destroy 
> all the Horcruxes completely alone (Ron and Hermione refuse to let 
him go 
> that far), but seems to feel he has to guard *Dumbledore's* secret 
about the 
> Horcruxes to the grave.  

Alla:

Oh, and don't forget that this explanation about prophecy only 
important because Voldemort believes in it comes in HBP and AFAIK 
there was nothing like that in OOP, it seemed like Dumbledore also 
believed in the Prophecy just because it existed, to me anyways.


Magpie:
We don't know enough about the Order to be sure, 
> but at this point I wonder how they hold together without DD.  
Harry doesn't 
> seem to feel there's any adults in it he could enlist to work on 
the Horcrux 
> problem.  (Maybe this will change in the next book.)

Alla:

Want to bet that Order is not holding very well, oh and also want to 
bet that none of the Order members will give Harry significant help 
in Horcruxes hunt in book 7? I predict all the important help will 
come from kids or from unsuspecting adult sources - like Regulus, 
maybe ( and that also be minor) ;)

JMO,

Alla