The Statute of Secrecy

[Mike]

No: HPFGUIDX 159200

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_svirn" wrote:

> > Mike previously:
> > This is intellectually dishonest. <snip>> 
> > IMO you depiction of a dictatorial DD is unwarranted and 
> > unfounded. Being the leader and director of the Order required 
> > him to take certain decisions upon himself. But you have no 
> > support for your position that he doesn't open up the floor for 
> > debate during meetings. 
> 
> a_svirn:
> IMO your rudeness is unwarranted and uncalled for. <snip>

Mike:
Excuse me, I'm being rude for disagreeing with your opinion? 

Or could it be because I called your mis-use of a Lupin 
quote "intellectually dishonest"? Since that quote was about DD 
keeping his secrets regarding Snape, which you agree with, then in 
essence you agreed with the position that Lupin takes on this 
subject. But that was not what you used the quote for. You used that 
quote as your assessment of the entire Order's intestinal fortitude.

IOW you agree with Lupin that "It isn't our business to know. It's 
Dumbledore's business. Dumbledore trusts Severus..." . If you want 
to call the whole Order "weak" for not challenging Dumbledore's 
*dictatorial* style, that's fine as your opinion. But to use that 
quote about DD and Snape's secrets, not about the Order members 
getting a say in DD's planning/decisions, is an improper use of a 
quote. It may have matched your opinion of the Order, but it was 
definitely out of context. 


> a_svirn:
> And you are representing wizards on this list, I take it?

Mike:
So, since you have already called me 'rude', you no longer feel it 
necessary to show me the 'non-rude' way to reply?

I have apologized when I have made a mistake. In fact, I posted an 
apology to you on this thread for mis-quoting you, after you called 
my attention to it. But when I point out your mis-use of a canonical 
quote, you call me 'rude'. I'll consider the source.