A new Voldemort/Harry Theory based on a challenge post. on HPFF
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<<This was Ken:
I think it is a brilliant theory, exactly where many authors would go with
this story. He only leaves out the part at the end where Ron and Hermione
have to kill Harry and "watch horrfied as his body slowly fades and dissolves
until for a last few awful moments the only thing left visible was his scar."
I don't think that JKR is going there. Also, at one time Dumbledore tells
Harry about the incomparable power of his whole and untarnished soul.
That would seem to preclude a conclusion where Harry has never had
a soul, only one of Riddle's soul fragments.>>
DA Jones here:
Good point Ken, yet JKR has Dumbledore admits that when he makes a mistake it is a big one. Maybe he has made a huge mistake. He may think Harry has his soul, but Harry may only have Tom Riddles's soul. (Which is different then Voldemort's. Riddle's is redemable. Voldemorts isn't.
<<Ken again: As Geoff said that is a very chilling way to conclude the series. In some ways I love it and I think it would work for many adult readers. I don't see it as a
good way to conlude a story written for children and adolescents. I think the
story is already too dark for them and this would take it straight into the
darkest depths of Hell. Actually the more I think about it the more it feels
like the way "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell" plays out, at least in tone.
It's plausible, it's artistic, I wouldn't bet on it. Ken >>>
Jonathon Strange & Mr. Norell is dark? I just finsihed reading it and it didn't seem thjat Dark too me.
DA again:
Will the 7th book truly be a children's book? I half feel JKR will publish it with a warning not to let very young children read it. Each book she has published has been darker and meant for older readers. HBP was foir older adolscents and the first two book for youg readers. I think JKR concept is that you give the first book to your child when they turn 11 and the last when the graduate high school. The idea is one book a year while they mature. The last book may really be an aduls book. It is going to be a 'war book' with deaths as she has already admitted.
I agree with you and Geoff that It prob' won't end this way though. I think the kid who proposed this had the general idea but just missed the fimal theory a bit. So I've refined it. The ending is not dark. It is triumphant.
It starts with this startling idea. Harry is mot a Horcrux, but Harry has horcruxes.
As far as I know no one has ever asked JKR this question.
Somehow Lily's protection spell caused Voldy's AK to backfire so it reversed the AK and killed Voldy. However, his soul split with the killing and the main one fled or was trapped in Harry and merged with his spirt, soul and body and the other split piece was somehow made into an air or vapor horocrux by whoever cast the horcrux spell (hidden behind the invisibilty cloak).
Harry is proetced by the Horcruxes Riddle made as the main soul of Riddle is in his body and is in fact 'his soul.'
Harry's Horcruxes are: :
1. Diary - destroyed by Harry
2. Ring - destroyed by Dumbedore
3. Locket - destroyed by RAB or at Grimmaauld place
4. Hufflepuff Cup
5. Vaportmort Voldy who has become the current Voldemort (instead of the snake)
6. Something of Ravenclaw or Gryffindor
Plus Harry's main soul so there are still 7 pieces.
I'm of the opinion that Dumbeldore just wants the snake dead and Harry needs something of Ravenclaw or Gryffindor, but maybe somehow the snake itself is something of Ravenclaw or Gyrffiindor.
.Vapormort in HBP eventually reconmstituteed itself into Voldy.
Harry has Voldy's "main soul" while the part split with Lily's death we can call split or remainder Voldy.
'Tom Riddle of the Diary may not be the the only animated Horcrux. Perhaps the ring also had one. Maybe each Horcrux thinks it is the real Voldy and will try to defeat the others and capture the soul piece to add it to its own. Perhaps the Locket Horcrux actually defeated RAB when he tried to destroy it is is free somewhere so that Harry has to fight 2 Voldy's.
This means that instead of Voldy protecting the Horcruxes he and Harry are in a pursuit to destroy the horcruxes to gain power and Harry won't have to destroy all of them himself. Counting the orig' piece each started wth Harry appears to be up 3-1 at this point but this is a best of 7 series.
The book may begin with Voldy destroying his horcruxes himself which would baffle the trio.
This also explains why Voldy won't let the DE kill Harry. They can't. Harry can't die beause he has horcruxes (or his Tom Riddle self does) . Voldy may not have fully realized this until the end of OOP.
Besides Dumbldore's commewnts aboyt his untarnished soul the only other flaws I see is it doesn't expalin all of the Lily's eyes comments or the gleam in DD eyes in GOF when Riddle used Harry's blood to reconstitute himself.
But maybe someone can tie those in and also find a way that DD comments fit.
In the end however even after Harry/Tom has all of his pieces back, he won't be evil. The love of Harry's/Tom's Tom will have redemmed the Tom bit of his soul and Harry/Tom will be as untarnished and powerful as Dumblesore and Ginny will have the two greatest loves of her life in one individual.
Also, Sorry about the link not working on my orig post on this I didn't realie that the challenge was posted on a part of the forum where you have to be a registered member to visit.
What do you think?
DA Jones
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