Do you all think that Sirius Black will return back ?

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 10 18:15:29 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 159355

---  "gaurav.baral" <gaurav.baral at ...> wrote:
>
> I think that he will return. Even Albus D. as a ghost.
> 
> "gaurav.baral"
>

bboyminn:

Oh me, oh my, oh dear, do I even dare respond? I have such
a wild and unlikely theory, and further one that has been
discussed here a couple of times before. I hate to trot 
out my old theories and rehash them. I feel too much like 
my father, telling the same old tired stories over and
over again. Maybe that's just part of being old?

Well, you did ask, so here it goes.

No, Dumbledore is absolutely and completely dead. All we
have left are his one or more portraits to help us, and 
any additional information that Dumbledore may have left
Harry. That's it. Dumbledore the human being is dead and 
gone. He certainly will not come back as a ghost seeing
as how he has such an enlightened attitude towards dead; 
it being the next great adventure.

Sirius is another matter though. 

My first speculative assumption is that Sirius 'crossed
over' under unusual circumstances. Assuming the Veil is
a metaphor for death, and assuming that the 'other side'
of the Veil is the Realm of the Dead, when one normally
crosses over, goes beyond/behind the Veil, ones physical
bodies dies and is left behind, and only the Spirit cross
the threshold into the Realm of the Dead. 

But Sirius didn't die before he crossed over, he went 
through body and soul alive and intact.

Now it is a rare mythilogical hero who is able to cross
over into the Land of the Dead and live through the 
experience. It is even a rarer mythological hero who
manages to come back from the dead.

So, at the moment, Sirius is alive, but he is trapped on 
the other side. If one is trapped in the Realm of the Dead
and is so trapped for eternity, then isn't one as good as
dead? Isn't one functionally dead even if not literally
dead? So, for all intent and purpose, Sirius is trapped
forever in the Realm of the Dead. But, as I said, it is
the rarest of rare mythological heroes who manages to
outwit death and return from the dead. Could Sirius be
such a hero and how could he possible manage it?

I'm glad you asked.

We know that Voldemort transferred some of his magical
powers and skills to Harry when he tried to kill him.
What if (more speculation) he transferred powers that
have yet to manifest themselves. Harry learned he can
talk to snakes by encountering snakes. What if Harry has
other powers but he simply hasn't come across the 
circumstance that allows those powers to manifest 
themselves. Take for example Voldemort other unique and
often mentioned power to possess other beings. Now hold
that thought.

My theory involves Harry going beyond that Veil, but what
could possibly draw the story and the characters back to
the Department of Mysteries and to the Veil? In a sense,
we've been there, we've done that. Why would they have
need to return to that location? Hold that thought.

Now we know Harry main task is to destroy the Horcruxes,
so that he can then in turn destroy Voldemort, but how?
How does one destroy a Horcrux? Is is as simple as 
breaking open a stubborn box? Is there a terrible curse
that is automatically part of each and every Horcrux?
And who do we know who is good at breaking curses; Bill
maybe? But Horcruxes are extremely rare, and they may
require special magic to release the soul piece within.
Would Bill know of this rare and unusual magic? Who 
knows.

But we do know a way in which souls can be released from
their bodies. Since Horcruxes are typically not alive, I
suspect if they were thrown beyond/behind the Veil, their
soul-piece would be released. So Harry gets the idea that 
the Horcruxes could be thrown into the Veil and that would
destroy them safely.

Perfect, now we have Harry and the gang at the Dept of
Mysteries with all the Horcruxes. So, now we have to get
Voldemort there. Well, of course he arrive just in the
nick of time to prevent Harry from destroying the 
Horcruxes. In my scenario, Harry is about to throw them in
when Voldemort arrives. The fastest way to stop Harry is 
to take painful possession of Harry's body, and prevent 
Harry from thrown the Horcruxes behind the Veil.

So, Voldemort possesses Harry, but Harry is absolutely
determined to stop Voldemort, and he resist that 
possession with all his might. It, once again, becomes a
test of will similar to the Brother Wand test of wills.
Harry summons every last bit of strength he has to 
throw Voldemort from his body, and lo and behold, instead
of throwing Voldemort from his body, Harry reverses the
possession. Now Harry is in possession of Voldemort's
body.

Seeing his opportunity, Harry waste no time in throwing
himself and by extension Voldemort through the Veil, 
thereby sacrificing himself to end Voldemort's life on 
earth. So, Harry, Voldemort, and all the Horcruxes are 
now behind the Veil. Just one small rub. Death doesn't
know what to make of two bodies and two souls occupying
one physical form; the merged Harry/Voldemort body. Death
can't take them because first of all they went through
the Veil under the same unusual circumstances as Sirius.
Second of all, as long as the two forms/bodies stay
merged Death can't claim them, this dual body/soul is
not trapped behind the Veil. If they can summon a unified
will and find the gateway, they can leave. 

So, while merged and behind the Veil, Sirius, Dumbledore,
and Harry's parents come to his aid. Though they can do
little besides give him advice and encouragement. But 
there is a critical piece of advice that they can give. 
If Harry were to merge with Sirius the same duel body/duel
soul would allow them both to leave. But how? If Harry is 
alone in his body and soul behind the Veil he becomes as 
trapped as Sirius. Solution? Simple, Sirius places his 
hand on the merged Harry/Voldemort and Harry transfers 
his possession to Sirius. That leaves Voldemort isolated
and trapped behind the Veil and leaves merged Harry and 
Sirius free to leave. 

When Harry and Sirius emerge from behind the Veil, they
separate, everyone cheers, and they are all off to the
Leaky Cauldron for a nice glass of mead. Voldemort is 
/vanquished/ forever; Harry causes his demise but never
has to actually kill him. Fade to Black. 

Well, you /did/ ask.

Steve/bboyminn









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