HBP -- Two Questions

[damselfly318]

No: HPFGUIDX 159429

kelli t:
 
> When Dumbledore was under the effect of the potion at the lake, and
he was making comments about, don't make me, I don't want to hurt
them, etc... Who do you think he was seeing?

Mari:

I'm so glad you brought this up.  Per DD, that's the cave where Tom
Riddle brought the two children from the orphanage who, according to
the matron, were never quite right afterward.  The last time I read
that part, I was struck by how child-like DD sounds when drinking or
being force-fed the potion.  It is not at all typical of DD's normal
dialogue -- even if he is being tortured.  It is very typical,
however, of a small child being punished and forced to do something
s/he doesn't want to do.

Riddle did something to those two children in that cave -- tortured
them, frightened them, attempted to control them, or something
similar.  It was an important enough event to him that he later hid
and elaborately protected a Horcrux there.  I think Riddle used those
children as guinea pigs on which to test his budding powers, and that
the liquid DD drinks forces him to relive that torture from the
children's POV.  The liquid itself may have been the distilled
emotions/memories from that event.
 
kelli t:
And...  Do you think the reason that Dumbledore trusted Snape so much
was that they made an unbreakable vow?

Mari:

I wondered about that myself.  Would a prior UV nullify a subsequent
UV if the 2 vows were at odds with each other?  I can't see DD
requiring SS to give him a UV, tho I could see SS offering to do it to
prove himself.  Honestly, tho, I don't think DD would compell SS to do
that, and I'm not sure he'd value a UV over true contrition.

Whatever made DD trust SS, I think it's something big, and I can't
wait to find out what.

Mari
who's been wondering if anyone else picked up on what DD was saying at
the lake....