Dumbledore Does Lie - Sort Of

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No: HPFGUIDX 159695

> Carol responds:
> Harry didn't go to *everybody.* He wrongly assumed that Snape, the 
one
> person (other than DD) who knew for sure that Draco was up to
> something, was part of Draco's plan. <SNIP>

Alla:

I stand corrected. Harry went to everybody who he had a reason to 
believe will help him. Harry went to everybody who he had a reason 
to believe is on his side. Yeah, he did not include Snape in that. 
Was he wrong? We shall see.

And Snape may not have been the part of Draco's plan, but as far as 
I am concerned he sure could have been a part of Voldemort's plan to 
back up Draco if he fails to kill Dumbledore.  And as we also know 
he indeed backed Draco up. For the reasons we differ on of course, 
but I sure do not exclude the possibility that Snape did what he 
wanted to.

Carol:
As we know, he knew no more about
> the Vanishing Cabinet than Dumbledore did.

Alla:

Is that somehow excludes Snape's agreeing to kill Dumbledore 
regardless of whether he knew of the cabinet or not?


Carol:
 I realize that the
> long-standing misunderstanding (or hatred, if you prefer) between 
them
> prevented him from doing so, but nevertheless, it's ironic that the
> two people who most needed each other's help here failed to seek it
> because they continue to mistrust eadh other. 


Alla:

I am really really not ready to say that Harry needed Snape help 
here.




Carol:
> I agree with Pippin that if Harry hadn't let his hatred of Snape 
get
> in the way and simply sounded angry and vindictive, he might have
> remembered the crucial information that Draco had kicked Trelawney
> out. Dumbledore would have realized that he had no choice to 
confront
> Draco at that point, and he might have prevented the DEs from 
entering
> Hogwarts (they were waiting until Dumbledore was out of the 
building).

Alla:

Dumbledore would have realised that he had no choice? Magpie wrote 
really well about it, much better than I can.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/159265


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "gwiddy2000" <gwiddy2000 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Could it be that Snape wants to be the Dark Lord himself. <SNIP of 
entire post>


Alla:

Yep, sure it could be as far as I am concerned. It is not ruled out 
by anything yet IMO and Snapey dear sure has big enough ego to pull 
it off.

IMO of course.

Welcome to the list :)