Draco and Dumbledore WAS: Re: Dumbledore Does Lie - Sort Of

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 159806

Pippin:
> > But the attack on Trelawney was evidence, a crime in itself (yes,
> > it is assault. Draco has no business to lay hands on her, nor
> > to forcibly remove her from a room where she has as much right 
> > to be as he does.) Even if Draco was not willing to answer any
> > questions about what he'd been doing, he could still have been
> > arrested, with due process. In Azkaban he'd be safe from
> > Voldemort. 
> 
> Magpie:
> I have a hard time believing this is true. By your own logic 
> Dumbledore can't do anything about the attack on Trelawney anyway.  
> Trelawney doesn't know who threw her out of the room, neither does 
> Harry and Draco can deny it. 

Pippin:
He can deny it, but there are two witnesses who can testify to the attack
itself. If  Draco is still in the RoR, that's certainly up to the WW's usual
standard of evidence, unlike the situation with the mead or the necklace, 
where AFAWK there's no witness who can show that Draco was ever 
anywhere near the bottle or the package. 


Magpie:
 I can't imagine he'd be arrested for ejecting Trelawney from a room any 
more than the Trio  would have been arrested for knocking Snape out in 
PoA. 

Pippin:
The only reason they didn't get in trouble is that Snape gave evidence
that they'd been confunded. Hermione was quite sure they were in for
it and so was Sirius.

"You shouldn't have done that," said Black, looking at Harry. "You
should have left him to me..."
Harry avoided Black's eyes. He wasn't sure, even now, that he'd done
the right thing.
"We attacked a teacher...We attacked a teacher...", Hermione whimpered
staring at the lifeless Snape with frightened eyes. "Oh, we're going to
be in so much trouble--"

Magpie:
> It just seems really silly to think that Dumbledore, who knows 
> perfectly well Draco is behind the near-deaths of Katie and Ron, 
> can't make a move--but would have leapt to take Draco into custody 
> once had he only known that somebody neither Trelawney nor Harry 
> actually saw ejected her from the RoR.

Pippin:

But that's exactly the situation in real life when the police have a
suspect but not enough evidence to arrest them. And if there weren't
such a right in the WW, then Umbridge could have had Harry imprisoned
on suspicion without even bothering to set up the dementor attack, and 
Snape could have had Harry deprived of Quidditch in CoS for refusing to
explain why he was in that corridor. Even Dumbledore isn't always
right in his beliefs on who is innocent and who is guilty, and he knows
it, so how could he trust himself with such despotic power, let alone
be trusted by others?

Pippin