Draco and Dumbledore/ Molly and Harry-Treated like Family

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 160027

Carol responds:
> > Worse than useless? [Snape's advice] kept loose-cannon Draco
focused on a plan that seemed not to be working and kept him from
sending any more dangerous objects into the castle.
>
> a_svirn:
> More dangerous than poisoned wine and a cursed necklace? I'd say a
> bunch of death eaters fits the description.

Carol responds:
You misunderstand me. I mean that it prevented him from bringing
additional dangerous objects into the castle. You snipped the part of
my post which showed that Draco stopped endangering his fellow
students by smuggling in objects like the necklace and the mead after
Snape confronted him. I didn't mean that the objects were more
dangerous than the Death Eaters. Neither Snape nor Dumbledore could
have known that the precaustions they had taken would not be enough to
allow the DEs access to Hogwarts. They did their best to keep Draco
away from Dumbledore and to prevent him from pulling more (i.e,.
additional) stupid stunts like the necklace and the mead.

>
> a_svirn:
> In other words, while Magpie thinks that Dumbledore put the lives of
> his staff and his students in jeopardy in order to save Draco, you
> think that he was trying to save Snape (with Draco as a side
> project). I am not sure I agree that either of those gambles was
> worth the price, since it was just dumb luck that no students died
> as a result.
>
> On the other hand, if Daco repented and came to Dumbledore, by the
> conditions of the UV Snape *would* have to step in and kill
> Dumbledore or die. Could it be that it was *this* situation
> Dumbledore was trying to prevent, rather than the one you described?
> Draco's conversion would have been as fatal for Dumbledore or Snape
> as the direct confrontation. So Dumbledore chose to do nothing and
> wait. One doesn't have to possess extraordinary brainpower to come
> up with such strategy, but as long as one has students to spare one
> can stall for time.

Carol responds:
The lives that were in danger (other than Draco's own) were Snape's
and Dumbledore's, and, yes, Dumbledore did what he could to protect
all three lives, mostly by staying out of Draco's way. Once Snape
stopped Draco from resorting to other methods, the students were
safe--until and unless the DEs got in. And Dumbledore took protective
measures there, too. Note that the Order was on duty the night that DD
left with Harry to look for the Horcrux. And note that Snape's action
(killing Dumbledore himself, probably on his orders) saved Draco from
the DEs, after which he hurried the DEs off the tower before Harry
could rush out and fight them and ordered them out of Hogwarts, saving
Harry from a Crucio on the way.
>
> > Carol:
> > What else could Snape have done besides warn Draco not to use
> > amateurish methods? Let the mead- and necklace-type incidents
> > continue? I think not.
>
> a_svirn:
> Yes, it's ever so much more pleasant to deal with professionals.
>
Carol again:
Sorry. That doesn't answer my question. Snape stopped Draco from using
amateurish methods like the mead and the necklace. Dumbledore had
already increased the protections on the castle (locked gates,
searching the students, eliminating owl mail. I repeat, what else
could either Snape or Dumbledore have done? You're ignoring the fact
that the students were safe until the moment of confrontation and that
no students would even have been involved if Harry hadn't ordered in a
few DA members. If it weren't for that, it would have been the Order
vs. the DEs, and Snape got the DEs out of Hogwarts and off the grounds
as quickly as he could, tossing in an extra lesson or two for Harry
along the way.

Carol, surprised that you would resort to sarcasm and hoping for
logical, canon-based counterarguments next time