Draco and Dumbledore
dungrollin
spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 22 23:23:25 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 160176
> Dungrollin:
On the other hand, Harry wouldn't have had the chance to test
Sectumsempra out on Malfoy. However, I think we could confidently
say that he would *still* have tried it out. On who, though? And
Snape would have been too dead to save the victim.
>
> Alla:
>
> I do **not** share your confidence that Harry would have
necessarily tried Sectusemptra. Yeah, he wanted to try out unknown
curse, which was really stupid of him, but he does **not** trying it
out even on Malfoy till he is forced to defend himself from Crucio,
so for all I know if nobody wanted to try Crucio on Harry, he may
have resisted his urge to try Sectusemptra and no Severus Snape had
been needed.
>
Dungrollin:
"Harry ignored her. He had just found an incantation (Sectumsempra!)
scrawled in a margin above the intriguing words 'For Enemies', and
was itching to try it out, but thought it best not to in front of
Hermione. Instead, he surreptitiously folded down the corner of the
page."
- HBP The Unknowable Room p419(UK)
"Harry was about to put his book away again whe he noticed the
corner of a page folded down; turning to it, he saw the Sectumsempra
spell, captioned 'For Enemies', that he had marked a few weeks
previously. he had still not found out what it did, mainly because
he did not want to test it around Hermione, but he was considering
trying it out on McLaggen next time he came up behind him unawares."
- HBP Sectumsempra p484 (UK)
It's a mere four and a half pages after this that he uses the spell
on Malfoy. And the main reason he hadn't tried it out yet was that
he didn't want to do it in front of Hermione.
Yeah, I'm fairly confident he'd have tried it out on someone like
McLaggan, though perhaps not *in the back*, the way he considers
doing in the second quote.
> Dungrollin:
> Additionally, the Order's most
> > useful spy, in Voldemort's inner circle is unable to continue
his duties because he's dead. The Order has by now had no
> foreknowledge of Voldemort's intentions for over six months,<SNIP>
>
> Alla:
>
> And now of course Snape ( if he is indeed not a traitor) has
plenty of people who trust him to pass the information to?
>
Dung:
You miss my point. I'm saying that in HBP there is over six months
between Snape's talking to Draco and the Tower during which time
Snape and Dumbledore are aware of Voldy's plan and what his goal is.
If that plan were to be foiled by apprehending Draco (killing Snape,
Draco is 'killed on paper' and smuggled away) Voldy would move on to
a new plan, and DD wouldn't have a spy in Voldy's inner circle to
tell him what that plan was (as he did in HBP and OotP). He'd be
working in the dark for the last six months (15 chapters) of HBP.
As it happened in HBP, they could be fairly certain that while Draco
was under orders to kill DD, that was where they needed to
concentrate their attention, and Snape was always around with news.
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. Do you see
what I mean?
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