Draco and Dumbledore LONG, beware

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 160192

> > Alla:
> 
> > Katie and Malfoy - yes, he did, but he did it because he was 
there 
> > and who says that if he was not there, someone else would not 
have 
> > done so?
> 
> Pippin:
> And who says if Harry was not there to save people, someone else
> would not have done so? Does that mean Harry gets no credit for
> what he's done?

Alla:

He gets credit, Snape I mean - what he does not get and what I was 
responding to is the acknowledgement that **without** him all those 
people are necessarily would not have been saved, that is all.

I am questioning the absolute **necessity** of having Snape around, 
that's all.

As to Harry, well yeah sometimes we **do** know for sure that nobody 
else but him could save people. Sometimes not, surely somebody else 
would have been able to save Sirius if that somebody else had the 
time turner and desire to do so, but I somehow doubt that **anybody 
else** would have been able to save Ginny for example.

 
Pippin:
<SNIP>
Draco, black sheep though he might
> be, is not yet a murderer. As such, he was still part of 
> Dumbledore's responsibility and it was  as much Dumbledore's duty
> to protect him as it was to protect Harry or Katie or Ron. 

Alla:

No, he is just attempted murderer.

Pippin:
> It seems to me that JKR is illustrating the  New Testament parable 
> ( and Talmudic midrash) of the Good Shepherd here. For those
> who aren't familiar with the story, the good shepherd leaves
> the flock of ninety-nine, and goes after the sheep who is lost,
> rejoicing more over the one who is found than the ninety-nine
> who never strayed.
> Before it was a  Sunday School story, it was sound management
> advice. The flock is safe in its numbers, while the lost sheep 
> is not only in greater danger, it has information that the shepherd 
> needs. Outliers are always worth looking into. 

Alla:

Yes, I know the story,yes, I see the metaphor, but no, I do not see 
it as sound management advice, because from my point of view what we 
have here is that the sheep can be lost metaphorically, but it also 
causes danger to the other stock.

It may be looked as beatiful spiritual story, or an idiocy, take your 
pick.

JMO,

Alla