Secondary Characters

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 160218

---  "Hagrid" <aussie_lol at ...> wrote:
>
> > ---  "eyemlynn" (Lynn) wrote:
> > >
> > > I am ...wondering how much of a role Krum will play. 
> > > ...

> > bboyminn:
> > 
> > I believe JKR said i... Krum would be back ... I 
> > think he will just be  one more friendly and positive
> >  person on Harry's side.
> > 
> > Becca:
> > I'm not sure if Krum will show up again or not. I 
> > would think that if he does, it would be as a spy -
> > given that Durmstrang is such a hotbed of Dark Arts.
> >  ...
> 

bboyminn to Becca:

Sorry Becca but I think Krum is a good guy. Not being 
from Britian he went to the only school that was available
to him which was the Eastern European Durmstrang. So, I 
don't think we can give weight to the school he went
to.

I know I can't prove it, and I don't know what purpose 
Krum will serve in the story, but in my own mind, I'm am
truly convinced he is a good guy.


>...
>  
> > > Lynn's question:
> > > Also the Creevey brothers. I feel that they may 
> > > also play a part in the conclusion. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > bboyminn:
> > ...
> > 
> > As to the Creevey Brother's future, I find myself 
> > speculating that Voldemort will ... taking over 
> > Hogwarts. ... by holding Hogwarts and it's students 
> > hostage, Voldemort can attempt to force the Wizard 
> > World to surrender. 
> > 
> > ... To regain Hogwarts Harry is going to need trusted
> > and reliable friends inside and outside the castle. 
> > That's where the DA Club members ... come into play. 
> > 
> Aussie:
> Voldy's goal for Hogwarts is the same as Slytherins - 
> no Muggles taught there. So ... the Creevey brothers 
> will be targets that shoot back.
> ...

bboyminn:

My first point was triggered by another thread but I can't
remember which one, it has to do with people armed with
wands. A Wand is more like a Star Trek Phaser than a
common muggle firearm. A Star Trek Phaser has the luxury
of being set from Annoy to Stun to Kill to Explode. There
is subtlety to both a Wand and Phaser that does not exist
with a crude firearm. That, in some ways, makes people,
especially students, MORE inclined to use their wands on
each other, but far far less inclined to do any real 
damage. A 'Tickle Charm' will certainly do the job of
harrassing and incapacitating an opponent, but in the end
it is hardly more than an annoyance. Not sure why, but I 
felt that I must point this out.

Now to Aussie's assertion that Voldemort's goals would be
the same as Slytherin's; I don't think so. At least not
until after Voldemort had won.

While Voldemort holds the school, it would be a grave
strategic blunder to start killing off Muggle-Borns. If
he starts killing students indiscriminately, then the
Wizard World will have no choice but to take a 'there
is nothing to lose' attitude. The students are already
being kill off left, right, and center. An all out attack
may cause some of them to be killed, but they are mark
for death anyway, so it's not a matter of 'IF' only a 
matter of 'WHEN'.

However, if Voldemort just warehouses the students, then
the Wizard World has no choice but to take the attitude
that they have 'everything to lose'. In other words, as 
long as they stear clear of the Castle and avoid 
antagonising Voldemort, they can reasonably be certain
that the student, the children of the British Wizard
World, are safe. An all out attack under those 
circumstances would be foolhardy.

So, Voldemort and the students are safe as long as 
Voldemort can play them as aces in his hand. As long
as they, the students, are safe but under thread, the
Wizard World wouldn't dare take action.

So no, the students are far more valuable alive as 
barganing chips, then they are being killed off. So,
Voldemort will not start by purging the school of
mudbloods. 



> >
> > Becca:
> > I think that any further international intrigue will 
> > come via Charlie Weasley. He really hasn't gotten his
> > day in the sun, and I sure hope that he does!
> 
> Aussie:
> Charlie was asked to be recruiting foreign Wizards. ...
> I would also like to see a flying armada with Norbert 
> carrying Hagrid into battle.
>
> aussie (well, I can dream, can't I?)
>

bboyminn:

In a sense, I can't help wonder if JKR has written herself
into a corner. She has so many characters, plot devices,
and creatures that are too promenent not to be significant
but on the other hand, so far, /don't/ seem to have any
significants at all. Do I really believe that Charlie, the
dragons, and especially Norbert, were an insignificant 
diversion; I don't think so.

Do I really believe that House-Elves, the Veil of Death,
the Centaurs, the giant Spiders, the locked room of 
supposedly Love, the caved in tunnel, the Chamber of 
Secrets, Fawkes, Aberforth, and a dozen others can be so
promenent, yet ultimately be insignificant; I don't think
so. But look at the shear number of these promenent plot
devices, how can she fit them all into one book, yet how
can she NOT?

It's going to be amazing to see JKR pull if off. 

For what it's worth.

Steve/bboyminn