Q's Harry's blood & Voldemort

[Steve]

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---  "bridgetteakabiit" <bridgetteakabiit at ...> wrote:
>
> I am new to the list, and have some questions that have
> popped up while I have been reading the books.
> 

bboyminn:

Welcome to the list, you have raised many question that 
have been discussed before. That in itself is not a 
problem, since we re-discuss things here all the time.
But many of the answers you seek can be found by paging
back though the list using the Web interface. It really
is very enlightening and educational. An educated 
consumer is always a good consumer. Plus, it's fun and
gives you a real feel for the group. You can certainly
respond to old post too. There are recent responses to 
the 'Fawkes' thread which originally began back in June. 

> bridgette:
>
> My main one is.. when Harry tells Dumbledore that 
> Voldemort used His blood to return (Goblet of fire)
> Dumbledore smiles. [Actually 'look of triumph'] 
> Anyone have any idea what will come out of this in
> the end? ..
> 

bboyminn:

Well you are asking one of the great unsolved mysteries of
the Series. You ask a question of which only JKR knows the
answer, and she is not telling, at least no right now.

Certainly it is clear that Dumbledore realizes something
that no one else knows. Perhaps, sharing Harry's blood
has given Harry some strength over Voldemort, or perhaps
it has given Voldemort some weakness. We do know this is
vitally important, but we don't know how or why.

One could speculate that it is related to the 'Blood
Protection'. While Harry resides where his mother's 
blood dwells, there the Dark Lord can not touch him.

Supposedly that spell expires when Harry turns 17, but
let us, for the moment, say that some aspect of it still
continues. Now, when Harry is in Voldemort's presence,
he is in a place where his mother's blood, as an extension
of his own blood, dwells. Perhaps Voldemort will attack 
Harry and the 'Protection of his Mother's Blood' will
again act as a shield to the Killing Curse. That is just
one speculation.

Another, perhaps in trying to kill Harry, Voldemort is
functionally trying to kill himself. In a sense, by
destroying Harry, he is destroying Harry's life's blood 
which now flows in Voldemort's veins. In killing Harry, 
he will kill himself.

Perhaps, it will be the opposite. Perhaps when Harry 
trys to kill Voldemort, having Harry's blood, and
being cursed by Harry will create a weakness that 
Voldemort couldn't have anticipated, and that will 
allow Harry to kill, capture, or vanquish the Dark Lord.

That ultimate answer is 'we don't know', but we have 
discussed it at length.

> bridgette:
>
> Even at the end of HBP, when Snape is escaping with the
> death eaters, he is still giving Harry hints... So does 
> that mean that Snape is truly on Dumbledore's side? I am
> convinced that killing Dumbledore was part of 
> Dumbledore's plan anyway..he seems to know everything, 
> and he always says there are things worse than death.
> 
> ...
> 
> Anyone have a guess as to how Snape redeemed himself and
> proved he was on the good side? ...
> 

bboyminn:

Again, you are asking one of the great unresolved 
mysteries of the series. The answer, as above, is 'we 
don't know'. However, I this case, I think JKR has 
intensionally set up this mystery. Snape is a generally
nasty guy, and especially nasty to Harry. So, we precieve
him as bad. Snape kills Dumbledore, which by any 
reasonable analysis make his bad and evil. However, as
you point out, Snape continues to teach Harry even as he
is running from Hogwarts. Why would Snape bother to 
tell Harry things he specifically needs to defeat 
Voldemort, when Snape is supposedly running away in
triumph? Doesn't make sense, yet Snape did kill 
Dumbledore, yet Dumbledore trusts Snape.

So, we really don't know. I think Snape is a good guy, 
he is just not and never will be a nice guy. I don't
think that Dumbledore consciously planned his own death
by Snape's hand. But I do think that Dumbledore set his
priorities, and that Snape was well aware of what was
vitally important and what was not. In the scene on the
tower, Snape followed the priorities set down by 
Dumbledore but I don't accept that there was a specific
plan for Snape to kill Dumbledore. That was simply the 
strategically best course of action at the moment and 
under the circumstances. Grim and dour as it may have been
it was still the course that served the greatest long
term good.

> bridgette:
>
> Has anyone decided what the Horcruxes were 
> 1. Diary
> 2. Locket (is it possibly the locket Sirius threw out?)
> 3. Ravenclaw's Goblet?
> 4. Snake
> 5. something from Hufflepuff/ Gryffindor?
> 6. Ring
> 7. Voldemort himself
> 
> Is that right?
> 

bboyminn:

Close but no cigar. 

1.) Diary - gone, destroyed by Harry in the Chamber of 
Secrets.
2.) The Locket - stolen from Voldemort but current where
abouts unknown, though likely the locket mentioned at 
Grimmauld Place, which I will remind you was supposedly
thrown out.
3.) Hufflepuff Cup - not Ravenclaw Goblet. Location still
unknown.
4.) The Snake - Nagini - I'm not so sure about this. 
Dumbledore says the snake is, but he doesn't seem too sure
about it in my book. So, likely but not certain.
5.) Something of /Ravenclaw's or Gryffindor's/. What and
where completely unknown.
6.) The Ring - destroyed by Dumbledore which resulted in 
his dead withered hand.
7.) Voldemort himself - Voldemort's body contains not a 
torn or split piece of soul, but the core-soul that 
defines Voldemort and provides his identity. That is why
it must be the last soul-piece to be dealt with.

Given the magnitude of this task, it seems next to 
impossible. Harry has SO much to learn before he can 
tackle the Horcruxes, and then once he is prepared, he
has to find them; an extremely next to impossible task.

Plus, on top of all the Horcrux efforts, Harry has to 
prepare himself to face Voldemort. Yes, many people say
that 'love' will save him, but there is no practical way
to apply 'love'. What is Harry going to do, give Voldie
a hug and a kiss? I don't think so. So, from Harry's
perspective, he must struggle to learn offensive and
defensive spells for the Voldemort confrontation. 
Combining all this, adds up to an impossible task that
we know for a fact will somehow be done. It's going to
be interesting to see how.

> bridgette:
>
> Regulus is definitely talked about more times than need
> be in book 6, so I think he is RAB...
>

bboyminn:

That seems to be an unofficially confirmed fact. JKR as 
good as said RAB was Regelus Black, but stopped short of 
actually confirming it. Confirmation has come from other
sources, but those confirmations are limited short of
a confirmation from the author herself.

> bridgette: 
> ...
> 
> What the heck was the significance of Snape being the 
> Half Blooded Prince?  I don't see why that was important
> to find out at all...but maybe it will be explained 
> later.
> 

bboyminn:

I think the 'Half-Blood Prince' is a bit of a McGuffin. It
give the characters an excuse to play the story out, it
gives them something to focus on while the story unfolds,
but beyond the surprise that Snape is the HBP, I don't 
think the fact itself will be significant to the future
story.

> I read where 2 more characters die in book 7. Anyone has
> any idea? ....
> 
> ...
> 
> ...
> 
> thanks,
> bridgette

bboyminn:

Rumors of their deaths have been greatly exaggerated. It 
doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that more
people are going to die. Look at how many people died in
the latest book. I don't have an official death toll, but
it is certainly half a dozen or more. So, certainly in
the next book even more people are going to die. But fans
have taken 'more people are going to die' and turned it
into 'significant characters are going to die', something
I don't think JKR actually said. Nor did she specifically
say TWO people are going to die.

So, yes, the mystery is /who/ is going to die, and will
they be significant characters or not. The answer is, of
course, we don't know; again, one of the great mysteries
of the Series.

Hope that helps.

Steve/bboyminn