Squib!Harry in the WW (was:Re: The Scar)

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No: HPFGUIDX 160393

> Ken:
<HUGE SNIP>
> What Harry has is wealth, celebrity, experience, training,
> friendships, connections, and resourcefulness. The Harry I know can
> and would use those to overcome the barriers that are put in his 
way.
> When Jackie Robinson accepted the offer to play major league 
baseball
> he faced huge obstacles. He overcame them and paved the way for many
> others, in sports and later in ordinary life even as generations of
> black musicians had laid a foundation he could build on. He helped 
the
> United States achieve social goals it had struggled with for 200
> years. To be sure Harry would face similar social obstacles. Facing
> them down would be a worthy conclusion to this story and I believe 
him
> capable of it. I am sorry that your Harry is only a pale imitation 
of
> the Harry I read about. The HP books I read have prepared Harry for
> life in the WW without magic, they have prepared this reader to
> believe that he can pull it off. I doubt that Rowling intends to go
> that way because it would take a book not an epilogue to do it 
justice
> but I am with her if she does.


Alla:

I may be wrong, but from what I read so far, I do not think that 
Betsy ( and Magpie) argue that Harry cannot do it.

I am certainly with you on admiring him and believing that he can 
face social obstacles and overcome them too.

I thought that at the heart of their argument is that this ending is 
just not supported by sufficient hints in the text ( besides the 
strength of Harry's character, if that makes any sense)

That there is nothing in WW to see that this indeed can happen - 
happy satisfying life for the person who lost his magic, even if it 
is with overcoming obstacles, that Rowling did not set it up, this 
type of ending, I mean.

For example ( here Alla prepares to run from Magpie and Betsy :)), 
the story of Draco in HBP. They would disagree with me here, but I 
fully believe that story of Redeemed!Draco is not set up in the books 
**at all**, for me it was pretty much out of the blue.

I see zero clues in the books that Draco has **any** good qualities 
whatsoever.

That does not mean that Rowling did not envision him having those 
qualities, that just means that she failed to convince me that he 
does based on those five books.

Now, in HBP she IMO obviously went for Draco, who is going to be 
redeemed.

I think it may even work well enough in book 7, but do I see support 
for this in the previous books? No, I do not.

Same thing with this type of ending. If she goes there, at least it 
can work based on strength of Harry's character, I guess.

But nothing else prepares me for this sort of ending so far. I do 
**not** see this kind of tolerance in WW whatsoever and I do see 
everything to the contrary. IMO of course.

Of course maybe the plan will be indeed to show social change in that 
way, I do not know.

Another thing, I am following this thread with great interest, but 
didn't JKR already squashed this type of ending in the interview last 
year?

Cannot find the quote, but try again later.

Something to the effect that Harry losing his powers and leaving WW 
would be interesting, but she does not want to plagiarise or 
something like that :)

Alla