Judgment and traitors WAS:Views of Hermione (etc.)

[Charles Walker Jr]

No: HPFGUIDX 160463

> > Amiable Dorsai:
> <HUGE SNIP of whole post>
> > I say that Marietta should at least ask for forgiveness from the
> > people whose lives she tried to blight before she expects any
> magical
> > Clearasil from Hermione.
>
> Alla:
>
> I agree with you. It is also impossible for me to understand how
> Hermione's actions in this situation can be talked about without
the
> **reason** for those actions. The analysis of actions without
reason
> for them seems for me to be a tad incomplete, hehe. ( Heeee in the
> Snape's case people refuse to look at much more **damning** action,
> if
> you ask me, and refuse to judge Snape based on that action and
> looking
> for justifying reasons, and here we are supposed to judge Hermione
> giving Marietta achne without asking why, when we actually **know**
> why and we **know** that she was defending herself and her friends).
>

Charles:
It is the same reason-judgement has been made and the argument is
tailored to fit the judgment, not the facts. (A bit harsh, but true.)
We actually see the same type of thing happening in a way in HBP.
Ron, Hermione, and others (with the notable exception of Arthur
Weasley, much to my surprise)keep dismissing Harry's suspicion of
Draco because Harry always suspects him of something, without looking
at the fact that Draco *is* throughout the book acting in unDracoish
ways. It seems a bit of the boy who cried wolf syndrome. But in
either case the error is the same- a judgment has been made and its
difficult to change.

Alla:
> I actually think that if Marietta asks for forgiveness the
> consequences could be lifted automatically, without Hermione even
> doing anything.
>
> Just a speculation.
>
> Alla,
>
> who wishes that Marauders had in their mist somebody as ruthless as
> Hermione to mark traytor before he did any serious damage.
>

Charles:

I don't think that it would necessarily be lifted by asking for
forgiveness. Marietta is a traitor- and there is a war going on.
People need to know that she cannot be trusted. Umbridge may not be
as bad as Voldie, but she is known to be vicious-and Umbridge's worst
had not been seen yet. If Marietta's fear of Umbridge was enough to
betray that many people, what would she do for fear of Voldemort?
Alla makes the point very well in her signature. If there had been
something of the like done in the Marauder's days, PP would have been
flushed out as being a rat in more than just the animagus way before
condemning James and Lily to their graves.

Charles, Who thinks Marietta and Wormtail are pretty close to being
peas in a pod.