Views of Hermione (was:Re: witches of the world (was: Lavender vs Hermione)

[wynnleaf]

No: HPFGUIDX 160464


> > Amiable Dorsai:
> <HUGE SNIP of whole post>
> > I say that Marietta should at least ask for forgiveness from the
> > people whose lives she tried to blight before she expects any 
> magical
> > Clearasil from Hermione.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> I agree with you. It is also impossible for me to understand how 
> Hermione's actions in this situation can be talked about without the 
> **reason** for those actions. The analysis of actions without reason 
> for them seems for me to be a tad incomplete, hehe. ( Heeee in the 
> Snape's case people refuse to look at much more **damning** action, 
> if 
> you ask me, and refuse to judge Snape based on that action and 
> looking 
> for justifying reasons, and here we are supposed to judge Hermione 
> giving Marietta achne without asking why, when we actually **know** 
> why and we **know** that she was defending herself and her friends).
> 
> I actually think that if Marietta asks for forgiveness the 
> consequences could be lifted automatically, without Hermione even 
> doing anything. 

wynnleaf
I am always interested at the comments from supporters of Hermione's
hex and how often those comments are consistent in their attempts to
re-write canon.  The above comments are simply examples of the usual
re-writes.

1.  "horribly disfigured by a series of close-set purple pustules"
gets re-written in "acne."  Very convenient if one wants to soften
what Hermione did.

2.  We are told that Hermione did this in an effort to protect the DA,
rather than an effort to simply find out who told.  As though the hex
did anything at all to prevent someone telling, which it obviously did
not, particularly when Hermione did it secretly so that no one knew
there was any consequence for telling anyone.  It was zero protection.

3.  Canon tells us that no one had been able to end the hex, even over
the summer.  One has to assume that even skilled wizards or witches
couldn't do it.  Yet supporters of the hex seem blithly assured that
it's not permanent.
 
4.  Hex supporters feel strongly that Marietta should apologize for
what she did and be sorry.  Strange how they forget that she'd been
obliviated and can't even remember anything about the DA, much less
going to it.  But (not yet in this discussion) hex supporters have in
the past commented that they're certain that the obliviation wasn't
permanent, even though all the canon evidence we have is that those
sorts of memory modifications are permenant.  

5.  And another one I've seen often is the assertion from some hex
supporters that the DA members should have known they were signing a
"magical contract" as though all contracts in the WW *are* magical,
and so they should have known some sort of magical result would occur
if they broke it.  Supporters of this argument happily disregard the
fact that Hermione put the hex in *secretly* and that there would be
no point in doing it secretly if everyone would naturally know that
there'd be a magical consequence to breaking it, and that further,
pureblood Ron was completely surprised to find that Hermione had
included a magical consequence.  

But the biggest thing that interests me is how a discussion on
Hermione's willingness to harm others including the innocent, trick
innocent individuals, lie, steal, and otherwise break  rules in order
to get her way is diverted into this one issue of Marietta, apparently
for the purpose of being able to argue that in this case, the person
deserved it, completely overlooking the main point, which is that
Hermione doesn't really *care* if a person deserves what happens to
them, as long as she gets the result she wants.


wynnleaf