Secret Keeper of Grimmaud Place

[justcarol67]

No: HPFGUIDX 160501

Random832 wrote:
> But allowing people to bring someone in is a security problem _in
and of itself_. The whole point of the fidelius charm is so that you
don't have to trust everyone who's told the secret. After all, if
someone who's not the secret keeper could bring anyone they want to
the location, the secret wouldn't have to be revealed to bring
Voldemort to Godric's Hollow (which also tells us that if this were
possible people wouldn't be assuming Sirius [as the secret keeper] was
> responsible for this happening)
> 
> If anyone can bring anyone to the location, the Fidelius charm
becomes absolutely pointless.
> 
> 
> ibchawz responded:
> I don't see that bringing someone to the location makes the Fidelius 
> Charm pointless.  Harry could bring Neville, Luna, or whomever to 12 
> GP without divulging that it was the Headquarters of the Order of
the Phoenix.
> 
> IIRC, someone stated that LV could have pressed his nose against a 
> window at the Potters' house in Godric's Hollow and not be able to
see the Potters inside, unless the Secret Keeper told him the secret.
 I think that the secret location of the OotP would be the same. 
Someone could physically be at 12GP without know that it was HQ. 
> 
Carol adds:
 
I think that ibchawz is right. If 12 GP were invisible to Bellatrix,
why would Dumbledore have been afraid that she'd inherit it and claim
it? She'd have to be able to see it and enter it, or she'd pose no
danger to the Order. And yet Harry couldn't see 12 GP until he knew
the secret, so how could Bellatrix? Okay, I'm confused again. (I won't
even ask how Narcissa could talk with Kreacher, whom she must know to
have been her aunt and uncle's house-elf and to live at 12 GP, without
figuring out that 12 GP is Order HQ--unless the Fidelius Charm
contains a built-in Confundus or Obliviate to keep people who used to
know information that's now secret from remembering it. Okay, I did ask.)

Regarding Luna and Neville, I wouldn't be surprised if Dumbledore
called them to his office, unknown to Harry (and consequently to the
reader), and told them the secret, just as he went out of his way to
tell it to the much less deserving Dursleys, knowing or guessing that
he would not be around next year to protect them (Neville and Luna,
that is) and that Harry would need their help at some point. At any
rate, I expect to see both Neville and Luna again in Book 7, and since
Harry won't be at Hogwarts, which may not even be open, the few loyal
remnants of the DA will have to be at 12 GP. For the Weasleys and
Hermione (who must have been told the secret by DD before they arrived
at 12 GP in OoP), that's no problem. For Luna and Neville, it is.

I personally prefer having them already know the secret to having
Harry sneak them in through a door they may not be able to see with
Order members around that they can't see or speak to because they're
not in on the secret.
>
Carol, hoping that JKR and Dumbledore planned ahead on this one