Views of Hermione /some Peter
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Sat Oct 28 16:49:24 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 160548
> Alla:
>
> I suspect that this comparison is made in jest, but Hermione **did**
> get the right traitor in OOP, didn't she?
Pippin:
You mean, she stopped Marietta from becoming a spy like Pettigrew?
There's a major problem with that. We have no canon that
Marietta had any intention of spying on the DA. AFAWK, all she
wanted to do was bring a stop to the meetings, which Cho was
forcing her to attend against her will.
Of course punishing people *before* they commit crimes is
certainly efficient, and there's precedent of a sort.
To quote Carroll's White Queen, " He's in prison now, being punished:
and the trial doesn't even begin till next Wednesday: and of course
the crime comes last of all.'
`Suppose he never commits the crime?' said Alice.
`That would be all the better wouldn't it?' the Queen said, as she
bound the plaster round her finger with a bit of ribbon.
--Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There
---
The only information Marietta volunteered to Umbridge is that she
would learn something to her advantage if she proceeded to the
Room of Requirement. That didn't even trigger the curse, so no,
it didn't take effect as soon as Marietta started talking to Umbridge.
Umbridge "questioned her a little further" with what gentleness
we can't say, but as Amiable Dorsai pointed out, it's hard to find a
passage where Umbridge isn't being sadistic. Does the
curse care whether the person who activates it is acting under
duress? Shouldn't Hermione care about that? Shouldn't we?
In any event, it was Dobby who warned the DA, it was Shacklebolt
who kept Marietta from incriminating anyone, and it was Dumbledore
who arranged for Harry to escape punishment. I can't see that
Hermione's curse helped with any of that.
I don't see that Marietta is depicted as someone who would have
become another Pettigrew. But I do see Hermione as someone who
could become another Crouch if something doesn't make her
see that to take rights away from the accused is to take them
away from everybody.
Pippin
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