Resolving Horcrux!Harry issues (was: DobbyWinky/Horcrux!H/Vindicti...)
justcarol67
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 29 21:51:40 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 160607
Carol earlier:
> > << If Harry is inhabited by a soul bit, he must be an accidental
> > Horcrux. If he's a Horcrux, he must be destroyed or Voldemort
can't be killed. If Harry's destroyed, he can't kill Voldemort. This
is not a mere JKR-style complication. It's an unresolvable dilemma. >>
>
> > Catlady:
> > It's resolvable: they die simultaneously. I like the idea of them
> > falling together over the Reichenbach Falls...
> >
>
> Neri:
> It's not merely resolvable, it's practically foretold: "and either
> must die by the hand of the other." It will also solve the problem
of how will Harry kill Voldemort without becoming a murderer. If they
> both fall unintentionally while struggling it doesn't count. <snip>
Carol responds:
Actually, no, Neri. "Either" is essentially the opposite of "both." It
means "one or the other." So *either* Voldemort will kill Harry *or*
Harry will kill Voldemort. And I think we can guess which outcome is
more likely.
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Catlady's scenario reminds me of Frodo and Gollum struggling on the
edge of the Cracks of Doom. Only one fell in, and his death wasn't
murder. It saved Frodo's soul from corruption by desire for the Ring
and Frodo himself from death in the tower because Gollum took the Ring
with him. The problem with a similar scene in HP 7, though, is that if
Harry is a Horcrux, he *will* have to fall in. The soul bit won't be
separate from him as the Ring was separate from Frodo.
As I said, though, "either" is not "both," and "neither can live while
the other survives" implies that one *can* live if the other dies.
Both of them are surviving now, but neither is really living. I
suspect that JKR will reward her hero for his victory and recompense
him for his sufferings bya allowing him to live as "just Harry," and
ordinary young wizard with his own inherited powers and none of
Voldemort's. No maimed hero who saves the Shire, erm, WW for others
but can't live there himself. There's no Uttermost West that he can
sail off to for healing. He'll have to find the strength and
resilience to live in his own world, saddened by his losses but made
wiser by understanding and the ability to forgive (I mean Snape, of
course; not Voldemort) and backed by his surviving friends.
Carol, only concerned about how Harry will kill Voldemort without
using an Unforgiveable Curse, which would surely corrupt his soul, but
99% sure that he'll survive into the Epilogue with his limbs and
powers intact
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