Resolving Horcrux!Harry issues (was: DobbyWinky/Horcrux!H/Vindicti...)
Neri
nkafkafi at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 29 22:56:49 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 160611
> > Neri:
> > It's not merely resolvable, it's practically foretold: "and either
> > must die by the hand of the other." It will also solve the problem
> of how will Harry kill Voldemort without becoming a murderer. If they
> > both fall unintentionally while struggling it doesn't count. <snip>
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> Carol responds:
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> Actually, no, Neri. "Either" is essentially the opposite of "both." It
> means "one or the other." So *either* Voldemort will kill Harry *or*
> Harry will kill Voldemort. And I think we can guess which outcome is
> more likely.
>
Neri:
>From Webster.com
http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=either
Main Entry: ei·ther
1 : being the one and the other of two : EACH <flowers blooming on
either side of the walk> <plays either instrument well>
2 : being the one or the other of two <take either road>
> Carol:
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> Catlady's scenario reminds me of Frodo and Gollum struggling on the
> edge of the Cracks of Doom. Only one fell in, and his death wasn't
> murder. It saved Frodo's soul from corruption by desire for the Ring
> and Frodo himself from death in the tower because Gollum took the Ring
> with him.
Neri:
A good comparison I didn't think about (not consciously anyway),
probably because Gollum, IIRC, didn't fell as a result of the
struggle. He fell while he was dancing celebrating his victory.
> Carol:
> The problem with a similar scene in HP 7, though, is that if
> Harry is a Horcrux, he *will* have to fall in. The soul bit won't be
> separate from him as the Ring was separate from Frodo.
>
Neri:
Like I wrote upthread, it's not a problem at all, because Harry can
fall in and he has a good reason to return alive and even be cleansed
of Voldemort's soul in the process. Don't you find the veil
conveniently bi-directional? If it was just supposed to be a portal
between the world of the leaving and the world of the dead, why
couldn't it be over the opening of a cave or a tunnel? The veil
hanging over an arch suggests that somebody is going to fall in and
appear on the other side.
> Carol, only concerned about how Harry will kill Voldemort without
> using an Unforgiveable Curse, which would surely corrupt his soul, but
> 99% sure that he'll survive into the Epilogue with his limbs and
> powers intact
>
Neri, who is pretty sure of that either <g>.
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