CHAPDISC: HBP 23, Horcruxes

cubfanbudwoman susiequsie23 at sbcglobal.net
Tue Oct 31 15:04:13 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 160745

Debbie, earlier:
> > > In other words, it was not the memory that was unique about the
> > > Diary horcrux. It was that Tom had devised a means of accessing
> > > the soul within. I see no evidence that the other soul bits do 
> > > (or did) not include memories. The difference is that there is 
> > > no way to access them; they are too well encased.
 
SSSusan responded:
> > ... are you suggesting that *each* of the horcruxes contains not 
> > only a soul bit but also a memory of Riddle? and that perhaps the 
> > reason Tom Riddle's name is familiar to Harry is that not only is 
> > there a horcrux in Harry, but there's a *memory* of Tom's in 
> > here, too?

Debbie:
> But that sounds about right.  My suggestion is that each soul bit 
> contains a melange of all those things that animate Voldemort and 
> make him who he is.  That includes memories, powers, conscience, 
> etc.  

SSSusan:
I had never heard this suggestion before, and I think it is 
intriguing indeed.  It would provide all sorts of possibilities for 
Book 7, should JKR elect to *show* us this melange, as she did with 
the diary hx.  Perhaps doing so would give Harry some necessary 
insights into Tom/Voldy, that would assist him in locating and/or 
destroying additional horcruxes?


> Debbie
> now contemplating whether Harry can give the soul-bit back simply by
> possessing Voldemort, conveniently avoiding his own self-sacrifice

SSSusan:
This I REALLY like.  I have long hoped that the *willingness* to 
sacrifice himself, accompanied by the *belief* that he will need to 
do so, will prove to be enough for Harry -- that taking action based 
on that willingness/belief will Somehow trigger Something which 
removes the necessity to actually be sacrificed.

What you're suggesting here -- that perhaps through possession of 
Voldemort Harry could give back the soul bit -- would fit so very 
nicely with that, I think!  Harry, believing he needed to attempt to 
possess Voldy and that in doing so he would give up his life, makes 
up his mind to DO it.  Doing it, however, results in the surprise 
discovery that possessing Voldy "releases" the soul bit from Harry 
and returns it to Voldy, allowing Voldy to be killed along w/ his 
last soul bit *without* Harry's having to die.

Wow.  Before now I have HATED the Harrycrux idea.  With this 
scenario, I actually like it very much.

Siriusly Snapey Susan







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