Etymology of "Occlumency" and "Legilimency" (Was: Names wordplay)

[potioncat]

No: HPFGUIDX 160763


> Carrie wrote:
> >   Did anyone notice that Occlumency  could be A clue men see?
> 
> Carol responds:
> I don't think the term "Occlumency" is a pun. I think we need to 
look
> at the Latin or pseudo-Latin etymology here, as we do for the 
spells.

Potioncat:
Me too. See below.

>Carol: 
> Snape's remark to Harry that only Muggles think it possible to read 
a
> mind like a book is interesting in view of this etymology, which 
Snape
> (who creates his own spells with Latin-based names) must 
understand. 

Potioncat:
I think it is very interesting to look at what Snape says about 
Muggles, given that he should have a better than expected 
understanding of the Muggle-Wizard differences.


Carol:
 Most of the
> puns, IMO, relate to English words and names and are rather easily
> grasped by young readers when the books are read aloud (like Diagon
> Alley/diagonally and Grimmauld Place/grim old place). 

Potioncat:
I read HBP to myself, so it wasn't until I read it outloud that I 
even realised Golpalott (sp?) was a pun. I laughed so hard--partly at 
myself for missing it earlier--that my poor son was frantic wanting 
to  have the joke explained.

I just went looking, and found this site:

>http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/books/pronunciation/play.htm

It has words from Harry Potter pronounced by a witch. (I assume they 
would get a witch to read magical words) Based on this, I don't think 
Occlumency is "A clue men see".