Is Lupin a Legilimens? Is that Suspicious?
Renee
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Fri Sep 1 11:48:13 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 157718
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "fair wynn" <fairwynn at ...> wrote:
>
>
> > > Renee:
> > >
> > > Lupin's still on JKR's list of favourite characters on her website.
> > > What seems to have disappeared from the site (unless I did a really
> > > bad search) is the question who she'd like to have dinner with, to
> > > which the answer was Lupin. But AFAIK this was never a list.
> >
> >Pippin:
> >JKR, Edinburgh Book Festival 2004
> >"If I could meet anyone, I might choose Lupin. I really like him. "
> >
> >JKR, An Evening with Harry, Carrie and Garp 2006
> >(asked which five characters she would invite to dinner)
> >
> >"Pretend I can take anyone? Well then I would definitely take
Dumbledore.
> > I'd take Dumbledore, Harry, Ron, Hermione...and.. (crowd shouts
> >characters) um, Hagrid. I'd take Hagrid, yeah. "
> >
> >So there is an A-list, so to speak, (an A-list is Hollywood slang
> >for a group of the most desirable people to invite) and Lupin's not
on it.
> >I thought there was a quote where JKR said she'd like to have Lupin
> >to dinner but I can't find it either.
> >
Renee:
Maybe we mixed up things because of OotP. There, Lupin says werewolves
aren't popular dinner guests, but I suppose we both refuse to believe
JKR shares the prejudice against them. ;)
Still, I don't think this A-list says a lot (see below).
Wynnleaf:
> >I can't access the video of New York events-- can anyone tell if Lupin
> >is one of the characters the crowd suggested?
>
> wynnleaf
> I just watched it the other day. Try msn. Anyway, my impression
was that
> she first said Harry, Ron and Hermione and then commented, after it was
> taking her some time to think of the rest, that she was the one who
knew who
> lived and who died -- as though she was trying to pick characters still
> "alive." Another writer said she could list dead characters, too.
After
> that she mentioned Dumbledore -- I think primarily because she had
just said
> he was dead a few minutes earlier, and because she was trying to use
a known
> dead character. Then she thought a moment and added Hagrid. But I
think
> primarily she was trying to think of a "save" character to choose
and she'd
> earlier that evening said if she could bring any character to life
it would
> be Hagrid.
>
> So the fact that she didn't mention Lupin doesn't mean much.
Renee:
It might have meant something if it was JKR herself who limited the
number of guests to five, but as it was someone else who did so, I
don't attach too much importance to it. Fred, George, Ginny and Luna,
a new favourite after OotP, are missing as well, compared against the
favourites list at her website. In fact, I'm more concerned about
Ginny's absence, certainly after JKR said she was the ideal girl for
Harry, or something. If she belongs with Harry, why not invite her,
instead of Hagrid? What is JKR hiding here?
Wynnleaf:
> However, remember that she's said several times that Snape was her
favorite
> character to write and she once called him -- I think the words
were, "a
> gift of a character." Yet her liking him as a character didn't get
in the
> way of her making him mean.
Renee:
There's a clear distinction between the characters she said she loved,
without further qualificatino (a list containing Lupin) and Snape, a
character she loved *to write*.
Wynnleaf:
So I think she can "like" Lupin and still make
> him weak and possibly weak enough to betray people. After all, as
far as
> Lupin knew, he *was* betraying Dumbledore, the Hogwarts staff, and the
> students by allowing a supposed known murderer and spy of
Voldemort's to
> gain access to the castle and threaten lives, without telling anyone
how he
> was doing it. Just remember, her liking Lupin didn't stop her from
having
> him betray the trust of Dumbledore, the staff and the students. If
she did
> it once, she could do it again.
Renee:
Theoretically, she could, though I still believe the way she's been
talking about him since he first appeared, makes this highly unlikely.
But if she did, she'd most likely do it by letting Lupin slip in a way
characteristic for him - remaining passive where action is required,
or keeping his mouth shut when he ought to speak, in order to avoid
the condemnation of people who matter to him. His main flaw is his
fear to be disliked. (There are moments when I think he gave in to
Tonks because he feared the wrath of Molly and McGonagall.)
Renee
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