What Came First: Task or Cabinet? - The Plan v1 & v

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 2 02:04:07 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 157752

> Random832:
> I was saying that _without_ the vanishing cabinet, Voldemort 
viewing
> this seriously as an attempt to kill DD doesn't make sense - and we
> therefore don't even _consider_ that angle at first, since we don't
> know about the vanishing cabinet - and then some of us may be too
> emotionally invested in "Voldemort planned the whole thing to get
> Draco killed for revenge on Lucius" to consider the alternative 
when
> the facts changed.

Alla:

Um, let me ask you the variation of the question I asked earlier in 
the thread. Does it really matter whether some of us "too 
emotionally invested" in the theory or not if canon based arguments 
in favor of this theory are being presented?

I think I can venture a pretty safe bet that great deal of many list 
members ( totally including myself) are emotionally invested in the 
characters and/or theories. It is just seems to me as strange 
argument against the theory - that its proponents are too 
emotionally invested in it to take a look at the changed facts.

Seems to me that proponents of this theory ( and I cannot speak for 
Magpie and Betsy) argue precisely that - that facts did **not** 
change, namely that canon does not hint that Voldemort chose Draco.

See, I am totally on the same page with them on this point. Where I 
diverge is that  I see the angle that those facts could be looked at 
as shaky  and 
therefore  speculation of "Draco comes to Voldemort" is not in 
contradiction with anything in canon. So, on those two things I 
diverge. There is also a third one, sort of.

For the longest time I was also thinking that Draco chose Voldemort, 
or if you wish "Cabinet comes first" does not make any major 
thematic changes in the Draco coming of age theme, that it can be 
safely stuck in the beginning of the story and nothing is going to 
change.

I am afraid that I am wavering on this one, since Magpie's 
explanation of why indeed "Cabinet comes first" does poke some big 
holes in the theme is getting to me :)

JMO,

Alla.








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