Was Snape asleep? (was Re: What Came First: Task or Cabinet?...

[snow15145]

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Snow (me previously):
So you see it was never about Draco at all, Draco was a bonus prize.

Magpie:

Yes, I get that the point here is to make it never about Draco but 
about the 
Cabinets and [insert complicated master plan of Voldemort that 
follows 
around X reader's preferences]. Some of us are arguing that story 
actually 
is about Draco, who changes.

Snow (me previously):

In the end, can we simply assume what the plan was when it has not 
been 
fleshed out in detail?
Magpie:
The plan only matters to understand the plot, for which we need to 
know 
Draco has been told to kill Dumbledore. The question of why Draco 
doesn't 
tell Snape has been covered over and over in this thread--most 
eloquently in 
Sydney's posts, imo, which all relate to a comprehensible emotional 
arc and 
not a series of decisions by an off-page character pulling everyone's 
strings.

Snow (me previously): 

instead what we saw was a-cocky-little-son-of-a-Lucius who wanted all 
the 
glory for himself but wait.this wasn't glory about killing Dumbledore 
no, 
no, this was glory for letting the deatheaters into the castle by 
means of 
his cabinets.

Magpie:

Actually, that's not what we saw. Or at least it's not what I saw. I 
saw a 
much better story that made good sense and was compelling. Oh, and it 
was 
about killing Dumbledore, the Cabinets being only one of a number of 
potential ways. (This thread is wonderful just for the reference to 
the 
Polynesian native with the blow dart!) Draco ends the book without 
the 
"glory" promised for doing Voldemort's bidding, because he doesn't 
kill DD.

Snow (me previously):

If Draco was being subjected to a life and death situation (his life) 
and 
yet his primary concern was for those damn cabinets, wouldn't you 
automatically question his priorities?
Magpie:
Again, please see Sydney's posts explaining what's going on.

Snow (me previously):

To make a theory from what one may consider questionable dialog, one 
must be 
willing to admit defeat on parts that have been proven unacceptable 
along 
with those parts that can enhance a theory.
Magpie:
Not sure what "proven unacceptable" means. None of the scene is 
unacceptable 
to me. The whole plot is pretty tight. None of the objections to that 
plot 
have been proven unacceptable at all from what I've seen. 
Unacceptable to 
individual readers who need the Cabinets to be hugely important to 
Voldemort 
and don't like the Malfoy's as a target, maybe, but everyone in canon 
accepts it. The alternate theory has certainly been shown to not be 
hinted 
at in canon at all, but that doesn't seem to matter.

Snow:

You know I always try to play fair by answering all of your points in 
succession, paragraph-by-paragraph and if I don't comment to your 
complete paragraph then I attempt to imply that by adding a snipped 
to your interlude. 
 
I do not feel that you are giving me that same privilege. Where do 
you answer any of my questioning? You are picking and choosing 
(taking out of context the meaning) what you answer to. This makes my 
attempt at explaining anything that much harder. 

This is not a contest as to who is right or wrong but what could be 
the possible outcome in the story. 

I am not invested to the point that I really care who lives or dies, 
at this point; I just want to beat the author to the punch line. I'm 
not connected to any fictional character to the point that I would 
argue to my point of view by relying on such tactic as to not allow 
the other person's viewpoint to be considered.   

By not allowing a blow-to-blow or paragraph-to-paragraph 
confrontation you are actually stating that you are willing to resort 
to any manner to prove yourself. 

Sincerely

Snow