Teaching Styles / Sorting Hat

[dumbledore11214]

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> > >>Mike Smith (see link):
> http://mike-smith.livejournal.com/125565.html#cutid1

<SNIP of the quote, go UPTHREAD to read it>
>> Betsy Hp:
> So Snape is making an important point.  Neville needs to learn to 
> pay attention and follow directions, or someone might get hurt.  
> Snape is doing the best he can to reach him.  I think it's 
> especially telling that Snape expresses a bit of frustration 
before 
> he comes up with using Trevor as a guinea pig.  Snape has been 
> trying to get that message across, and this is one way he's 
thought 
> of for doing so.

Alla:

I thought about cutting this part of your post entirely, since I've 
said many times what I think about Snape um... "teaching" Neville ( 
sorry, there is absolutely no way I would call what Snape does here 
as teaching :)), but then  I could not help myself with giving piece 
of advise for Severus dearest, if this is indeed his mindset in this 
scene.

Um, Snape, you taught this boy for three years by now. Think harder 
as to how reach him. Talk to the teacher who was succesful in 
reaching him without threatening to poison his pet. Sorry, I just 
cannot view this scene as humorous, I find to be well... you know.

As to Mike Smith, somebody recently mentioned him to me. I take your 
word for it that he is funny, but honestly I could never understand 
if person dislikes the books that much, why bother writing so much 
about it.

No, I have not read him yet, if he is truly funny I may or if he is 
just trashing the books, I probably won't.

Betsy Hp:
> See, my problem with the end of Sorting forever is that I much 
> prefer the idea of students being in Houses, with various ages 
> intermingling, than in dorms based on age.  But you can have the 
> Houses and just sort students *randomly* into them.  That way 
being 
> a Gryffindor doesn't mean anything more than the color of your 
> school tie.  It doesn't say anything about your personality.
> 
> So you still have the logistical sense of the Houses without the 
> psychological test that in many ways justifies cut-throat House 
> rivalry.  It's win, win! <g>

Alla:

Right, this is the part of your post I am truly curious about. :) ( 
The other one was just discussed so often, not because I want to 
disregard your words).

Yes, I am one of the people who thinks that "end the sorting" is the 
most likely answer and the most logical answer to house rivalry and 
especially to ending the poisonous Slytherin mmentality (pureblood 
mentality, I mean, but again, so far I had been given nothing to 
show that it does not equal Slytherin mentality, therefore in my 
mind they are pretty much the same).

The solution you just gave I find very cool, in a sense that indeed 
random sorting would not put students of the same personalities 
together, and they will have a chance to socialise with those whose 
values are truly different from theirs, learn the best, get rid of 
the worst, etc.

To make a long story short, I love it, but the question to you is 
why would you want it? I mean, you seem to like House system, but 
wouldn't the Houses be truly houses anymore?

Would you just prefer for the names to be there? What if the 
students be just sorting in four different dormitories with no 
names? What is the significance left in House system?

Just Quidditch? But then couldn't the teams be randomly formed?


 
> (Okay, all of you "end Sorting now!" had probably figured that all 
> out, but it's a new idea for me, so I'm kind of excited. <g>)
> 
> Betsy Hp (glad to have thought of something having nothing 
> whatsoever to do with cabinets <g>)

Alla:

Mmmm, not me, I did not think about it and yeah, ditto about 
cabinets.