Teaching is not and never has been a popularity contest.

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> AD:
> So, if being an ass is the best way to get through to Neville, we 
can
> conclude, from his performance against the Boggart and his "E" in
> Charms, that Lupin and Flitwick are even bigger bastards than 
Snape?
> 
> 
> 
> Marion:
> You're missing the point.
> In the original link (http://mike-
smith.livejournal.com/125565.html#cutid1) Mike says the following:
> < SNIP of the quote,go UPTHREAD to read it>
>> Marion again:
> See? Snape's teaching style is quite appropriate for the art he 
teaches.
> (I wanted to write more, but then I read Betsy's post and knew I 
couldn't add to that :-)


Alla:

I don't know about Amiable Dorsai, cannot speak for him, but I got 
the point, I think and this **point** I find to be faulty, that is 
all.

I don't find Snape's subject to be significantly **more** dangerous 
than any other magical subject, except maybe the one Binks teachers, 
there is no danger there, that is for sure :)

Anything can go wrong more or less on any practical subject IMO, 
that is why I don't buy that Snape's subject being a bit more 
dangerous than some and just as dangerous as others IMO ( Care of 
Magical creatures, DADA,etc) gives him a cart blanche to do that to 
Neville.

Especially since Neville does **not** respond well to his methods, 
IMO.


> 
> Betsy Hp:
> No.  I'm saying Potions is more dangerous than Charms or DADA.  At 
> least at this level.  (I can see DADA and Charms reaching a point 
> when they become just as dangerous as Potions, but by that point 
> you're probably at NEWT levels and the sucky students have been 
> tested out.)

Alla:

Okay, and I am saying that **all** magical subjects are dangerous, 
because any spell said wrong can be gone wrong, any creature they 
studied in DADA could have gotten loose or something, but what I am 
trying to say is that I don't think that the more dangerous subject 
is the more horrible and humiliating the teacher should become.


> Betsy Hp:
> Neville *was* having trouble actually.  Harry was a bit worried 
for 
> him but then Draco did his bit and Neville was saved.

Alla:

Yes, he was having trouble, my bad, but he was not doing 
worse than everybody else in the class, he listened to the 
instructions and he was not being attacked at least.


Betsy Hp: 
> And actually, that just goes to prove the point.  I think CoMC 
*can* 
> become as dangerous as Potions eventually, depending on the 
magical 
> creature being studied.  Hagrid started the students out with 
> dangerous creatures so it *was* a dangerous class.  But he didn't 
> drive home the caution the students should have been taking.  He 
> didn't scare them enough, and Draco was hurt.  Could easily have 
> been killed.

Alla:

I suppose Hagrid could not imagine that Draco would come to the 
class ready to sabotage it, and thought that safety instructions 
were just as enough for Draco as for everybody else. 

But I am not sure what point it proves. 


> Marion:
> If, *if*, there ever would be a 'final confrontation' between 
Snape and Neville, Neville-poo would be mincemeat.
> Not so much as Harry-poo would, though (unless JKR pulls a magic 
bunny out of a hat which magically transforms Harry-poo from a 
stupid, obstreperous, selfimportant hate-filled dillitante into a 
smooth, suave duellist) No, indeed. <SNIP>


Alla:

I had became quite a betting person lately :) But actually, I will 
not even offer a bet about who will loose the confrontation at the 
end, I will just bookmark this post to the same place where I put 
ESE!Lupin post and return to discussing it after book 7 is out. I 
promise :) My crow is ready to be cooked. Is yours? ;)

JMO,

Alla