[HPforGrownups] OoP clues?

[Kathryn Jones]

No: HPFGUIDX 157976

justcarol67 wrote:
> It seems to me that we're in desperate need of a new topic again, so
> here's my attempt to start a new thread. JKR has indicated that we
> should look at OoP, which she concedes is a little too long, for clues:

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> Carol resumes:
> So all the subplots are necessary for the resolution--house elfs and
> boggarts and all. What do those who think Phoenix is a "bad" book with
> a lot of wasted pages think should have been cut because it won't play
> a part in book seven? And what do OoP's defenders think will prove to
> be important besides the locket that won't open and the Veil and the
> Love Room in the DoM?

> Anyone want to volunteer a list of Book 5 subplots that need to be
> resolved in Book 7 and speculations on where JKR might take them?
> 
> Carol, who wouldn't mind endlessly debating Snape but reluctantly
> concedes that there's more to the HP books than Sevvie

  KJ writes:

    Good job, Carol!

   One of the things that I found most noticeable from OotP to HBP is 
Harry's emotional state.  He was angry, vindictive, and moody all 
through OotP. This seems to be a demonstration of how the Voldemort 
connection affected Harry. It would be more an indication of Voldemort's 
feelings rather than Harry's.  While Harry was able to come up with an 
explanation for why he was so angry all of the time, it may not have 
been the real answer. He even snarled at Hedwig! He ordered Hedwig to 
peck both Ron and Hermione and was not even sorry that they both had cut 
fingers.

   In HBP, while Voldemort is occluding, Harry is much more himself. He 
is relatively patient with McLaggen and Lavender, and much more able to 
be reasonable. His thinking is noticeably clearer and he is more 
proactive than reactive. I wonder if this will make him more able to 
detect Voldemort's mind games in the final book.

   I liked the introduction of Emmeline Vance, soon not to be with us, 
and Sturgis Podmore, also soon not to be with us, and Tonks, who became 
incredibly graceful in HBP.

   Does anyone remember the scrolls and rolls of parchment in the first 
OotP meeting? Harry saw what looked like the plan of a building. What 
building would be involved in future plans?

   And then there's Ragnok of Goblin fame, who is anti-wizard because 
Bagman owes him money as well. (and you thought I didn't know who Ragnok 
was, Carol) So we have Goblins, Werewolves, Centaurs, and Giants, most 
who have good reason to dislike or even hate wizards. Someone, (Harry?)
is going to have to draw all these disparate entities together.

   What I think is one of the biggest clues in the book is when Snape is 
completely distracted by Trelawney's scream, and without thinking speaks 
to Harry just as he would any other student. Snape had been about to 
snarl something nasty, when he heard the scream and the scuffling.  He 
looked around frowning, and then asked,"Did you see anything unusual on 
your way down here Potter?" Interesting that he would ask Harry 
anything, particularly with the presumption that he would trust the answer.

So what other questions did Order of the Phoenix leave us with?

KJ