Identifying with Muggles in Potterverse WAS: Re: DD at the Dursleys:

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> Betsy Hp:
> <SNIP>
> So yeah, wizard using magic to pick on Muggle (not defending, mind 
> you, but being aggressive towards) I side with the Muggle.  Even if 
> the Muggle is an absolute drip.  As the Dursleys are.

Alla:

Okay, and that is something that I cannot understand at all. Not 
identifying with Muggles as group, see below, but identifying with 
Dursleys as part of it. I am just not getting how even if we agree 
that wizards are being agressive towards them, how that can cause 
empathy towards them, but to each their own of course.

To me Dursleys as human beings are absolute grips as you said, they 
suck and I could care less whether they are Muggles or Wizards, 
because yeah, we are talking about two different races, but I suppose 
to me what matters the most is that both those races are humans. And 
despite the fact that it is indeed something very crucial - that one 
race can do magic and another does not, at the same time to me it is 
sort of superficial if that makes sense ( maybe because I like RL 
comparisons and I cannot find RL comparison to Wizard v Muggle 
distinction, so when I evaluate Dursleys I evaluate them as humans 
first and foremost. Ugh, I am rambling too.

Betsy Hp:
<SNIP> 
Because by 
> involving magic it's wizard vs. Muggle now.  And I have to support 
> my team.  Even if the people under attack aren't my favorite 
> representatives.

Alla:

See above, to me all those *characters* are on my team as humans if 
that makes any kind of sense.


Betsy Hp:
> So it's not like I was outraged on the Dursleys' behalf.  But I was 
> more like, "See?  Even the best of them can't stop themselves from 
> misusing their power.  Darn, arrogant, wizards."  Because I'm a 
> Muggle.  And I'd be just as helpless to defend myself as the 
> Dursleys' were.  I'd have had to drink the stupid mead, even though 
> I'm not a drinker and would probably hate the stuff.  I'd have to 
> fake it in order to not anger the all-mighty wizard.  And that 
ain't 
> right.

Alla:

I guess to me it is a question of child abusers getting what they 
deserve, not poor helpless Muggles against wizards, that is just not 
how I view the situation, but again JMO.


Betsy Hp: 
> But yeah, in the Potterverse I really do identify with the hardly 
> ever seen Muggles.  Not wanting to be a witch.  Not wanting to go 
to 
> Hogwarts.  A bit odd, I guess.  Anyone else feel the same way?  I 
> wonder how JKR sees it?

Alla:

Oh, that part I understand. I think I mentioned in the past that 
magical world bleaked on me too, not that I viewed it as super shiny, 
but I probably would not want to live there either, and honest to 
goodness, unless we would see some signs about drastic changes 
beginning to happen, I would **not** want my child to go to Hogwarts.

Nevertheless, it did not bleak on me that much, I certainly would 
love to visit, but because of the characters that live there, not 
because of the society.

 
> Betsy Hp (thought about changing the subject line but I think I 
> managed to stay on subject, though I thought I was going to stray --
 
> also I'm a bit rambly today...)
>

Alla:

heeee, I ramble so much more :)