DD at the Dursleys: Why do people dislike the scene?
snow15145
kking0731 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 8 02:06:56 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 158008
Magpie snipped:
That's the way the scene comes across to me, which should probably
explain why I don't particularly like it. I get why other people do
like it, this is why I don't like it. Also, I rarely forget reading
these books that I'm a Muggle, so I'm always going to identify with
the Muggles to a point in any scene. I don't like this kind of
thing, so I don't like the scene.
As for it making Dumbledore human, yeah, it's perfectly human.
But "it makes him human" in fandom is usually used to refer to bad
behavior or flaws that a person doesn't want discussed as such. I
mean, all the character are human and so are all their flaws. Which
I think is also implied by saying it makes him human, like Jesus.
Snow:
Jesus is human when he showed that death affected him by crying over
the loss of his friend Lazarus
"Jesus wept" (which is by the way the
shortest sentence in the Bible). Jesus showed human nature to
inevitable worldly mortality.
Dumbledore shows his human nature affecting him through his
controlled but nonetheless childish way in which he approaches the
Dursley's (the human nature part).
Dumbledore is deliberately insulting to the persons who were
entrusted with the care of Harry, who was a blood relative. Being a
blood relative, Dumbledore gave Petunia the opportunity to act in a
civilized manner and take care of her sister's child; it was her
choice to be less than human in her behavior to him. However
Dumbledore did give her the chance since Harry's mother's blood made
this sad environment protected beyond Any Powers that Dumbledore
possessed.
I've heard you say in most of the posts to this subject that it was
this particular scene that you are replying to and not the abuse
issue. My question is how you can possibly see this scene out of
context by discounting the origin that created Dumbledore's actions?
This all ties together. If I saw anyone treat someone in such a
manner without provocation I would have to ask myself why he would
act in such a way.
Fortunately for us we know Dumbledore would act a bit less than
polite towards a family who was given a chance and failed miserably.
I have no use for such people and feel that Dumbledore was all too
gracious to them but at the same time realize that anything greater
than what he did, in this scene, would surely bring him down to their
level.
There is a fine line between good and evil and between abuse and
spoiling a child and yet the Dursley's managed to go overboard in
both respects. If you are not abusing a child, you might be seen as
spoiling them but if you are spoiling them, you might just be abusing
them. I believe this to be Dumbledore's point.
In the end I would have to say that the scene that occurred was very
well stated.
Snow
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