Snape/Regulus/Lily Fidelius Theory Re: OoP clues?

abergoat adescour at pirl.lpl.arizona.edu
Sun Sep 10 15:36:13 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 158124

Abergoat writes:

I love hwyla's work, she developed my favorite symbolism theory: The
potions book was put behind a cage with ribs (ribcage) in a chest
(torso) with a head placed on top. So that potions book was placed 'at
the heart of it all'! Fabulous work!

Argus Pyrites wrote:
> Now how can a goat tend bar at the Three Broomsticks?? Ahhh, yes, I 
> see it
 yet *another* unregistered animagus!

Abergoat replies:
Not quite, I think Aberforth is the goat making the bar smell like
goats. The current barman may be missing Order member Caradoc
Dearborn, which is why Mundungus doesn't have to wear the disguise
when talking to him in the street. Dung only has to wear a disguise in
the bar to avoid being kicked out by a mad goat (who is still
technically a 'barman' because he probably owns the place). Like it or
not, JKR did not confirm Aberforth was the barman - she only
congratulated readers for tracing him to the bar.

> > hywla at Mugglenet wrote:
> 
> > I'm going to throw in MY 'pet' out-there theory about the 'awful 
> boy'. I think it's important
> > that Petunia mentions that the boy was discussing not just the 
> dementors, but the dementors > as Azkaban guards.
> 
> > I think the discussion took place AFTER they were all finished 
> with Hogwarts. 
> 
> > In fact I think it came about because of a 'living death' and 
> Fidelius for Regulus (secret being > he's not really dead). I think 
> Snape went to Lily to ask her to perform the Fidelius for Regulus > 
> (with him as SK). Ollivander's comment on her wand being good for 
> Charms has to come in 
> > somewhere and Flitwick said it was an immensely complicated charm.
> 
> > I think she then suggested that if Regulus wanted to leave Voldy 
> they should go see Albus - to > which I think Snape replied that 
> Albus would just send them to Azkaban, pointedly reminding > her of 
> the fact that dementors were now guarding the place (it doesn't seem 
> as if they had 
> > ALWAYS been guarding Azkaban).

Abergoat writes:
That is a really fun idea. I too don't think Snape's regret or his
conversation overhead (assuming he is the awful boy) had anything to
do with whether he loved Lily, was her friend, or hated her guts.
There is something between them but I refuse to believe motivates
Snape, or more accurately, didn't motivate him until he was
responsible for Lily's death. And we know he turned spy before that.

I agree that Lily might have been one of only two people capable of
casting Fidelius (possibly Dumbledore's own invention). And the idea
that Snape was involved with Regulus's attempt to escape is fun and
seems very plausible. 

My only objection is that at that time Regulus wanted out of the Death
Eaters Snape wasn't much of a boy. He would have been in his twenties.
I think the better bet is that a truly young Snape (before his worst
memory) discussed with Lily his idea to enter the Death Eaters to
bring down Voldemort from within. Therefore risking death from
Voldemort if discovered and risking being placed in Azkaban if exposed
as a Death Eater.

So I believe Snape was always against Voldemort, although it is
possible he didn't join Dumbledore until later. I think it is possible
he did it on his own. Out of vengance for something Voldemort has done
but doesn't know that Snape knows...hence Snape learned Occlumency
before he entered Voldemort's service...possibly with the help of a
Legilimens named Lily.

Abergoat









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