OoP clues?

[Clifford Vander Yacht]

No: HPFGUIDX 158126

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, juli17 at ... wrote:

> Julie:
> Erm, while your discourse on telepathy is interesting, what does it
 have
> to do with Legilimency or Occlumency? Nothing that I can see. We are
> talking about a fictional book relating fictional powers, and it has
 already
> been noted in the text that Legilimency is not "reading minds." We  also
> have no reason to assume JKR knows anything about telepathy in  the
> manner you're presenting it ("it requires an open mind" etc) as  you
readily
> admit. In fact the necessity of eye contact for Legilimency would  seem
> additional evidence that JKR is not basing this wizard skill on
telepathy.  In
> short, your analogy is invalid, which also means the Occlumency  lessons
> provide no support at all for the "Snape is a bad egg" theory  :-)

Cliff:
There is one huge hole in your reasoning. LV is accessing Harry's mind
from a distance, thus it *is* telepathy, not Legilimency as you just said.

> Julie, who admits to being highly skeptical about Muggle psychic
abilities
> of all kinds

Cliff:
I doubt if JKR intended to do any more than expand on telepathic
communication, but that requires observance of the facts of telepathy
which occurs only between certain individuals. I classed those who
either can't or won't (does "skeptical" fit in here?) accept
telepathic messages as having closed minds (accidental or deliberate
Occlumency). In fiction, you can write anything you so desire;
however, to be readable, it must follow its own rules. There has been
much discussion about the details of JKR's rules, a whole Lexicon on
it, and that Book Seven must follow logically the previous six books.
So that logic either requires following the facts or opening a new
branch of fiction. Based on facts as I know them, Snape taught Harry
wrong. You are entitled to your opinion.

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