Who is Harry's guardian? WAS: Re: Identifying with Muggles -

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> > a_svirn:
> > And Harry's parents appointed Sirius as his guardian, yet nobody 
> > bothered to honour their wish, least of all Dumbledore. Which 
only 
> > goes to show that he observes the law only if it suits him. 
> 
> Pippin:
> Sirius, or possibly someone impersonating him, relinquished Harry 
to 
> Hagrid at Godric's Hollow. The fact that Sirius (or whoever) gave 
> up the child so  reluctantly but didn't insist on protesting to 
> Dumbledore in person would be one of the things that made Sirius
> look guilty at the time.  
> 
> Once Sirius's innocence was established, Dumbledore seems to
> have regarded him as a co-guardian, since he was allowed to sign
> Harry's Hogsmeade permission form.
><SNIP>

Alla:

The question I have and sorry for the repetition a_svirn ( I cannot 
check my e-mail from work, but I can read the list :)) is whether 
Godfather automatically equals guardian in RL. I mean I know in many 
fanfics it does, but is it in RL?

I know it is a clueless and somehow naive question and I remember we 
discussed it in the past, but don't remember the answer . Nobody in 
my family had godparents and I never dealt with it.

If something happens with the parents, is it automatically assumed 
that child goes to godparents?

Because if it **does** assumed so in RL, then I would guess that as 
much as it is possible, that should also apply to the story, I 
absolutely agree with a_svirn that Dumbledore had no right whatsoever 
to bring the child to Dursleys when it went against the direct wishes 
of his parents.

Then it would means that Sirius was indeed the guardian and **not** 
Dursleys, but I am not sure about that.

And Dumbledore, unless he has psychic powers could **not** have known 
that Sirius would be arrested, so he had no right to direct Hagrid to 
take Harry from Sirius IMO.

Now, if Dumbledore indeed had those powers of prediction or if he is 
moving backwards in time as Merlin did, hehe, or something like that -
 if he **knew** that Sirius would be arrested, then yes, then he had 
a right to bring Harry to Dursleys even if Sirius is a lawfully 
appointed guardian.

And was **allowed**? Um, I don't remember Dumbledore giving Sirius 
permission, unless you mean they exchanged letters?

I don't think Sirius needed any such permission, frankly, if he IS 
Harry's guardian.

IMO,

Alla.