In defense of DD WAS musings on Dumbledore - Even Longer/Sirius and DD

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No: HPFGUIDX 158675

Tonks:
> That is not what I meant. What I was saying was that it was
> necessary for Harry to have at least one Godparent for his Baptism
> and because Sirius was James' best friend he would be given that
> honor. By *both* James and Lily. In my mind a Godparent and a
> guardian are two different things. But as I remember now I guess
> Sirius was able to sign Harry's permission slip, which in itself
is
> a bit odd because Petunia and Vernon were still his legal
guardians
> at the time. So did he have 3? Or did Sirius sign in his duties
as
> Godparent?
<SNIP>

Alla:

Maybe because Sirius never relinguished his duties as a guardian and
DD decided that maybe he should be allowed to do this small thing,
maybe he knew that he made a huge mistake that night and wanted to
clear his conscience a little bit,regardless of the fact
that Petunia and Vernon are indeed Harry's guardians too?

Sirius says that he was appointed guardian, to me that ends the
inquiry.


Tonks:

> I wish JKR would explain all of this to us, as to just what roll
> does Sirius have?

Alla:

She did IMO, by saying that Sirius was chosen a guardian.

Tonks:
> Lets say that a Godparent is a legal guardian. If that be the
case,
> I think the fact that Hagrid had the kid and the guardian's
> motorcycle that Sirius must have somehow given his consent to
Harry
> being with his aunt. I know that this isn't canon either, but the
> bike and Hagrid and the kid all together is. I think that is as
good
> a piece of evidence as any. Instead of blaming DD, maybe you
should
> blame Sirius.

Alla:

But sure, it is Sirius own fault that Dumbledore did not bother to
investigate further and once deciding that he is guilty, went with
it. ;)

Sirius agreed to decision made by great Albus Dumbledore.
Reluctantly, if I may say. Per Hagrid, he **argued**. He should not
have been agreed of course. Just take the kid and leave, but since
he had his mind bent on revenge, well, I suppose he did not want to
endanger Harry further.

Again, not a good thing, revenge that is. Understandable to me, but
not good.

But no, great Albus Dumbledore is not off the hook with me, sorry. :(

And the first thing Sirius does when he has a small hope to clear
his name is offers Harry to live with him.

And funnily, what he also says, that maybe Harry would not want to
leave his relatives. Which to me suggests that Sirius had no idea
what kind of people Dursleys are, otherwise I sincerely doubt that
he would have agreed to anything. This is just my opinion of course.


> Carol responds:
><SNIP> However, I do think that in 
addition
> to the blood protection, which was apparently his primary
> consideration, I think he may well have had James's arrogance in 
mind.
> Suppose that Harry, James's son, grew up being treated as the 
savior
> of the WW without having actually done anything to earn that honor?
> Wouldn't arrogance like James's only magnified by an understanding 
of
> *why* people were bowing to him in the streets, be a very dangerous
> trait in the Chosen One? If he already thought he was special, how
> could he develop humility or love, the traits that seem necessary 
to
> defeat LV? Wouldn't he think that he was already special and didn't
> need to learn anything? (Look at the fate of child stars in RL. I
> think he thought it was best for Harry to grow up not knowing who 
he
> really was--and, as it turns out, he appears to be correct.

<SNIP>


Alla:

Leaving aside the huge disagreement with the idea that it is up to 
DD to think of what traits to develop in Harry, how do you know that 
Harry would have been arrogant had he grew up with anybody else?

We are never going to agree on what kind of person James was, but 
maybe Harry was and always would have been primarily like Lily, and 
she was not arrogant, as far as we know, like ever.

I have to say one thing, the more I participate in this thread, the 
worse DD looks to me and I think I am close enough to start 
despising him on the permanent basis the way things look like now, 
hopefully not :(

I am really unhappy to go against author's intent and I know what 
JKR intends with DD, I think, but DD who plays God, but who is not 
really God, deserves a major slap IMO.
 
IMO,

Alla