In defense of DD WAS musings on Dumbledore - Even Longer/Sirius and DD

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No: HPFGUIDX 158702

> Julie:
 Especially this idea that it was Dumbledore's responsibility 
> to keep Sirius out of Azkaban in the first place. WHY is this 
> Dumbledore's responsibility?? <snip> Dumbledore isn't judge, jury 
or executioner in this matter, he's 
> nothing more than one witness who told the only truth he knew, 
that 
> James had told him Sirius was the secret-keeper. But the fact that 
he 
> didn't go beyond that, didn't step out of his own position as 
> Headmaster at Hogwarts and take over the WW court system and take 
on 
> the case of one student out of thousands he's watched pass through 
> Hogwarts who was to all appearances very guilty of the crime, 
makes 
> *Dumbledore* the guilty one.

<SNIP>

Alla:

I would feel much better if Dumbledore just did not get involved 
**at all**, you know. But he made himself involved IMO so Yes, it is 
his responsibility as far as I am concerned to investigate further.

He did not just step back and watched the events unfold, he took it 
upon himself to send Hagrid to get Harry, moreover he took it upon 
himself ( unless you would argue that Fudge somehow forced him to 
come forward) to step up with the **evidence** that Sirius was a 
Secret Keeper, and just as Sherry said I am not sure I remember 
stellar cannon support that James told him about Sirius being secret 
keeper ( even if he did, I think DD had to investigate further, but 
I am not sure that he did).

Dumbledore took it upon himself to help condemn Sirius as far as I 
am concerned and before he did that, he IMO should have been 
absolutely sure that the evidence he had was a strong one.

Ooops, it was not. I do not hold Dumbledore primarily responsible 
for Sirius' imprisonment, of course not, but do I think he bears 
some responsibility? Um, yes.

If Sirius was just nobody imprisoned by the Ministry, Dumbledore 
sure did not behave like it from the side of condemning him IMO.


> Magpie:
<SNIP>
 I don't think people--at 
> least I don't--consider Dumbledore to be the person who put Sirius 
in jail 
> any more than he's the one abusing Harry rather than Vernon.  But 
I think 
> it's valid to look at this kind of inaction as a part of his 
character. 
> Sirius was a member of Dumbledore's Order, Harry's godfather, an 
important 
> part of the family in the Prophecy, yet when he's in trouble he 
becomes, by
> your own description, nobody.  Just some random student he doesn't 
know or 
> have any responsibility to--so again, it's not really his mistake.

Alla:

Yes, precisely. Dumbledore is not Barty Crouch, Dumbledore did not 
put Sirius in prison, but Dumbledore did not do what in my book he 
should have done and that means to me that he should bear his part 
of responsibility, which is smaller than Barty of course.

JMO.

Alla,

who thinks that maybe in this thread she should just keep saying *me 
too* to Magpie's posts over and over again ;)