I Had a Dream or HowI Realized That I May Have Been Wrong.

[quick_silver71]

No: HPFGUIDX 166971

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
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> bboyminn:
> 
> I realize that this was just a revelation in a dream,
> but I've alway had a problem with the admittedly 
> popular idea that Dumbledore /planned/ for Snape to 
> kill him. 
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> I think Snape chose, from the perspective of the good
> guys, to lose the moment. To lose a tremendous asset,
> yet to preserve more valuable long term assets. Long 
> term assets like himself and Harry, that had a greater
> potential to produce positive results down the road.
> 
> I simply can't see a direct conscious plan for what
> happened on the tower, but I can see a more general
> all-encompassing plan and strategy that lead Snape
> to make the terrible choice he made in that moment.

Quick_Silver: 
While I agree with you about the whole greater good and Snape being a 
long term asset I wonder how much of Dumbledore's sacrifice on the 
Tower may turn out to be motivated by emotional factors? I think that 
Dumbledore honestly cared about Snape and would go out of his ways to 
protect Snape (I mean Dumbledore risked a lot for Draco...why not 
Snape too). That's why in the Vow debate, although my first 
inclination is that it's Snape and not Dumbledore's problem that 
Snape made that Vow, I think it can't be overlooked that Dumbledore 
would honestly try to save Snape (maybe even from himself).  

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> Lastly, I'm absolutely convinced that Harry doesn't have
> a chance without Snape's help, and Snape somehow 
> convincing Harry to accept his help is going to be a big
> part of the plot of book 7. I can't imagine /how/ but
> none the less, I am absolutely convinced it must be
> done.

Quick_Silver: 
Interesting. I'm basically leaning in the opposite direction...I 
think that Snape desperately needs Harry and Harry really doesn't 
need Snape anymore. Harry's little Horcrux hunt, with the expectation 
of the snake, Nagini (spelling?), seems very independent of current 
events and thus Snape's spying abilities and skills. On the other 
hand the only person that's left who has really challenged Voldemort 
is Harry so to it seems logical that Snape will have to make his way 
to Harry eventually (if he's on the good side). 

Quick_Silver