The editor was sobbing

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No: HPFGUIDX 167052

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ken Hutchinson" <klhutch at ...> 
wrote:
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> I think that Gandalf said that it was unimaginable that Sauron would
> ever rise again. I don't believe he said it was *impossible*. That
> door might be open the barest crack. I'd prefer that Voldemort's 
fall
> be truly permanent. My better side would like to see all the rest
> redeemed but perhaps some outcomes *are* too trite to be suffered.
> 
> Ken
>

I think the actual LOTR quote was that if the ring is destroyed 
Sauron will fall so low that "none can foresee him arising again."  
As you say, not saying it won't happen, just that it would be in the 
unforeseeable future if ever.

However, I think we are dealing with apples and oranges.  Sauron was 
a quasi-immortal being to begin with, a different order of life 
altogether from the inhabitants of Middle-Earth.  He might be best 
considered a fallen angel of intermediate status.  Voldy, on the 
other hand, was mortal to begin with, a wizard like all others.  He 
is trying to achieve something of a Sauron-like status, but the whole 
purpose of the horcrux-hunt is to deny him that possibility.  Absent 
his achieving some form of immortality, which would certainly 
represent a victory for him, any long-term solution to the Voldy-
problem seems to entail his death.

It does seem to be pushing the envelope for EVERYONE (i.e. all major 
and intermediate bad guys) other than Voldemort to live and be 
redeemed.  That would be Snape, Draco, and Wormtail at the very 
least, which strikes me as at least one happy ending beyond 
swallowing capacity.  If I had to give probabilities, I'd say that 
Snapey-poo has a 99% chance of biting the big one, Wormtail a 99% 
chance as well, and Draco a 50% chance.  With regard to redemption, 
that is such a loaded word it's hard to say.  If you mean that 
they'll end up going against Voldemort, I'd give Snapey-poo a 75% 
chance, Wormtail a 50% chance, and Draco a 50% chance (in Draco's 
case I'd say the alternative to being against Voldemort isn't being 
for Voldemort, but being in a useless state of shock).


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