I HAD A DREAM OR HOW I REALIZED THAT I MAY HAVE BEEN WRONG./ PART 2 sort of

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> > Alla:
> > I am not sure what we are disagreeing over here. I agree that AK 
> > personifies intent to kill, I do not think that there are any 
other 
> > spells that do so, and that is why IMO this is one of the very 
> worst 
> > sins of Potterverse to use it, because you have to have an intent 
> to 
> > do so.
> 
> zgirnius:
> A person who takes a ton of bricks, deliberately Wingardium 
Leviosa's 
> them over someone's head, and then deliberately drops them, also 
has 
> intent to kill. So does a Muggle who puts a deadly poison in 
> someone's drink, no magic involved at all. I hope we can agree that 
> these acts, too, would be among the very worst sins in any universe.
> 
> Which again raises the question - is the AK any more evil than any 
> other way of deliberately killing a human being?
> 
> Personally, I think the idea that it is worse undermines the 
> applicability of any moral lessons people might take away from the 
> books to real life. Because, as it happens, the AK is not available 
> to us. I mean, if I were in Snape's situation on the Tower, and I 
> made Snape's choice, would the fact that I would need to push 
> Dumbledore off the tower make me a better person than Snape? And if 
> not, why would it make him a worse person, that he did not?
>

Alla:

How about the strongest personification of the intent to kill? 
Because of course what you described is also very bad, probably 
equally bad, BUT Potterverse is an interesting place, you know and I 
do believe that metaphors for actions do exist there together with 
those actions itself.

Okay, that was a confusing sentence. Let me try to make sense with 
example.

We know for a fact that Dementors personify the effects of the 
depression in Potterverse, yes? I believe that JKR was very direct in 
saying so.

Does it mean that the characters cannot be depressed for other 
reasons than meeting Dementors? Of course not. I think it is clear 
that Cho is depressed in OOP, Sirius is depressed, etc.

But when I think of depression in Potterverse, I think of dementors 
first and foremost as strongest metaphor for that.

Same thing for me with AK. AK means to me that person intends to 
kill, period.

Of course there are other situations when person can intend to kill 
and use other means ( we do not see any of them by the way being used 
by good guys, no?), but to me when author wants to stress how bad it 
is, she will use AK first and foremost.

Does it make sense?

JMO,

Alla