Musings on Dobby,Horcruxes, and MPD!LV Was:Snape and use of "The Dark Lord"

Ceridwen ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 6 17:03:20 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 167160

Carol:
> I see what you're saying, although, of course, there are only two 
different names, and the Tom Riddle in the diary was originally a 
*memory.* I don't think that the other soul bits would have 
personalities or bodies. You can put a memory in a diary to be "read" 
by other people (the diary had to be interactive or it could not have 
been used to open the Chamber of Secrets)...
*(snip)*
That aside, I don't think that soul bits have independent volition, 
except in the case of the diary, in which the soul bit was combined 
with a memory of young Tom, which could interact with a reader. 

Ceridwen:
Now you've got me thinking.  The memory of Tom Riddle meant to 
regenerate itself by sapping Ginny's life.  What if the memory wasn't 
directing this, but the soul-bit through the memory?  The soul-bit's 
reason for existing outside of LV is to ensure LV's continued 
existence.  It is more intimately a part of LV than the memory is, 
though not by much.  It has been informed, through the agency of the 
interactive memory, falsely as we now know, that LV is no longer 
extant.  Could the combination of a sentient memory and a soul-bit 
have combined to create the urge to replicate LV all over again?

*(snip, and putting out of order)*
Carol:
> First, from what we've read, a Horcrux has to be deliberately 
created.  LV may have intended to use the soul bit resulting from 
Harry's murder to make his sixth Horcrux as DD speculated, but he 
performed no such spell on Harry himself. He was trying to kill him. 
So even if there's a soul bit in Harry (and all we know is that he 
has some of LV's powers--we don't know that they result from a soul 
bit), he is not a true Horcrux.

Ceridwen:
So if there is an accidental soul bit inside Harry, would this mean 
that the soul bit won't be difficult to remove?  It isn't guarded by 
any sort of spell: not a spell to deliberately create a Horcrux, and 
not a spell to protect the Horcrux.  IF such a soul-bit exists in 
Harry, it had no direction to be there and no instruction to stay 
there.

Putting the two together, then, I wonder if a soul-bit automatically 
seeks out a living human host when it is, um, between situations.  
The soul-bit in the diary wanted to live in a real body, in fact, 
seemed to draw strength from taking the life-force of someone else, 
it if was not just the memory managing the thing.  And if it is 
possible that a piece of torn soul, wrenched from LV's body as he 
vaporized, ended up in Harry, then this might not be too wrong of an 
idea.

If we put this together with the canon fact that LV can possess 
others, to their detriment, then maybe what happened to DD's arm was 
that the released soul-bit from the ring entered his hand when he 
disarmed it (no pun intended), possessed the hand, and, unable to 
possess anything larger so the host could support it longer due to 
Snape's intervention, killed the hand.

Ceridwen.





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