Musings on Dobby,Horcruxes, and MPD!LV Was:Snape and use of "The Dark Lord"
Ceridwen
ceridwennight at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 6 17:03:20 UTC 2007
No: HPFGUIDX 167160
Carol:
> I see what you're saying, although, of course, there are only two
different names, and the Tom Riddle in the diary was originally a
*memory.* I don't think that the other soul bits would have
personalities or bodies. You can put a memory in a diary to be "read"
by other people (the diary had to be interactive or it could not have
been used to open the Chamber of Secrets)...
*(snip)*
That aside, I don't think that soul bits have independent volition,
except in the case of the diary, in which the soul bit was combined
with a memory of young Tom, which could interact with a reader.
Ceridwen:
Now you've got me thinking. The memory of Tom Riddle meant to
regenerate itself by sapping Ginny's life. What if the memory wasn't
directing this, but the soul-bit through the memory? The soul-bit's
reason for existing outside of LV is to ensure LV's continued
existence. It is more intimately a part of LV than the memory is,
though not by much. It has been informed, through the agency of the
interactive memory, falsely as we now know, that LV is no longer
extant. Could the combination of a sentient memory and a soul-bit
have combined to create the urge to replicate LV all over again?
*(snip, and putting out of order)*
Carol:
> First, from what we've read, a Horcrux has to be deliberately
created. LV may have intended to use the soul bit resulting from
Harry's murder to make his sixth Horcrux as DD speculated, but he
performed no such spell on Harry himself. He was trying to kill him.
So even if there's a soul bit in Harry (and all we know is that he
has some of LV's powers--we don't know that they result from a soul
bit), he is not a true Horcrux.
Ceridwen:
So if there is an accidental soul bit inside Harry, would this mean
that the soul bit won't be difficult to remove? It isn't guarded by
any sort of spell: not a spell to deliberately create a Horcrux, and
not a spell to protect the Horcrux. IF such a soul-bit exists in
Harry, it had no direction to be there and no instruction to stay
there.
Putting the two together, then, I wonder if a soul-bit automatically
seeks out a living human host when it is, um, between situations.
The soul-bit in the diary wanted to live in a real body, in fact,
seemed to draw strength from taking the life-force of someone else,
it if was not just the memory managing the thing. And if it is
possible that a piece of torn soul, wrenched from LV's body as he
vaporized, ended up in Harry, then this might not be too wrong of an
idea.
If we put this together with the canon fact that LV can possess
others, to their detriment, then maybe what happened to DD's arm was
that the released soul-bit from the ring entered his hand when he
disarmed it (no pun intended), possessed the hand, and, unable to
possess anything larger so the host could support it longer due to
Snape's intervention, killed the hand.
Ceridwen.
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