Avada Kadavra and the circle in the triangle

houyhnhnm102 celizwh at intergate.com
Sat Apr 7 17:13:18 UTC 2007


No: HPFGUIDX 167183

Talisman:

> Among the *heretical,* aka unorthodox, Xian sects 
> I have considered, Gnosticism--which argues an inner 
> divinity--is high on my list of possibilities.

> (This would be what is called *Optimistic* Gnosticism, 
> not all that demi-urge stuff.)
[. . .]
> The symbol itself is explored in more depth at this site:

http://www.jesusfamilytomb.com/forum/Naked_Archeologist-15-228-0-0/

> The only other discussion I've found, so far, relates 
> to magic, see the illustration and explanation at:

http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Goetia

Goddlefrood:

> My starting point was this extract from J K Rowling at 
> the Edinburgh Book Festival, Sunday, 15 August, 2004:

> "JKR: Does anyone know where avada kedavra came from? It 
> is an ancient spell in Aramaic, and it is the original 
> of abracadabra, which means "let the thing be destroyed". 
> Originally, it was used to cure illness and the "thing" 
> was the illness, but I decided to make it the "thing" as 
> in the person standing in front of me. I take a lot of 
> liberties with things like that. I twist them round and 
> make them mine."

Hans:

> This is just one more confirmation of my assertion that 
> Harry Potter is the most sublime and holy work of 
> symbolism written in modern times. It is about the 
> force that connects God and Man: Love!

houyhnhnm:

The only sites I came across that had a symbol anywhere 
close to the one on the spine of Bloomsbury DH were the 
Goetia type sites.
http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/
bldefstriangleart.htm
http://www.hermetic.com/osiris/triangleofart.htm

This particular triangle in a circle appears to be 
associated with Aleister Crowley, "The Wickedest Man 
In the World," and I was startled to find that 
"abrahadabra" is also associated with Crowley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahadabra

No offense to anyone on the list, but I find all of 
this hermetic stuff incomprehensible (All I can think 
of are the Diabolicals in  _Foucault's Pendulum_) and 
Crowley is particularly creepy and repulsive.

I am wondering now, if after ten years of defending the 
Harry Potter books against the attacks of fundamentalists 
by claiming that the magic in HP is only silly "Bewitched" 
type stuff like turning teacups into gerbils, Rowling is 
going to introduce "real" magic (both Light and Dark) 
into the last book, that is, magic as it is believed in
by people in the real world who believe in magic (I don't).

My Bad Self thinks that would be kind of funny. It would 
certainly be more palatable to me than a Calvinist ending.





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